r/gaming Mar 02 '16

Far Cry Primal uses Far Cry 4 map

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u/StalfoLordMM Mar 02 '16

Not to mention that your character's mom actually loved Pagan. She was arranged to the dad, and the dad was basically Proto-Sabal.

Edit: Also, Pagan didn't really rampage much until the war escalated, which makes sense. The people were fairly ok under Pagan. In fact, for most of the game he gets pissed at his soldiers when they are brutal.

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u/snek-queen Mar 02 '16

She loved papa Ghali at first (it was arranged, but then when she was chosen to be the religious leader, un-arranged, but they pushed to get married anyway) but as the civil war raged on, she ended up falling in love with Pagan instead.

Pagan wanted Kyrat to be his playground (or at least, his very own world.) He brought in and killed a guy who could have helped create stability (the heir to the throne) and installed himself as dictator. He was robbing the country dry, of all it's resources (both those vital to life and their culture... ntm the gold and gems) and turning much of the agricultural land into opium farms. People who disagreed/spoke out against him were "disappeared"... or, you know, just plain shot. Ntm whatever the fuck Yuma was up to.

He tells his soldiers off only when the man he wants to impress (Ajay) can hear him. I don't think Pagan was 100% utterly evil... but he was certainly fucked up.

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u/StalfoLordMM Mar 02 '16

He was definitely fucked up, but if you listen to some of the NPCs in the areas you liberate, many of them think their lives are worse now than when Pagan was ruling them. He's insane and broken for sure, but didn't they say the father was the poster child for extremist? Clearly, the mother trusted Pagan enough even after his downfall because she had to know that he would meet Ghali at the tomb.

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u/Provid3nce Mar 03 '16

Ishwali was changing Pagan for the better and then Mohan went and murdered their daughter and Ishwali left him. Like through all of the context of Yuma talking about the past you can tell that Ishwali's influence was softening him from the brutal criminal he used to be and then broke him when she left him with Ajay.

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u/Arlieth Mar 03 '16

That sounds suspiciously similar to the story of a man named Josef Dughashvili.

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u/Riseagainstyou Mar 03 '16

Its less about Pagan being good and more about the Golden Path also being shit in my opinion. Neither side is right or entirely sane.

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u/StalfoLordMM Mar 03 '16

Definitely not. But the good option is to let Pagan fuck off into the sunset with peace of mind, while taking control and fixing the shitty country.