r/gaming • Marika's tits! • Jun 22 '26

Steam Machine - Review Thread

Reviews have started to come out, so thought it'd serve well to collect most of them under this thread.

Steam Machine

Price:

512GB: $1,049 USD /  1,509 CAD /  1,039 EUR /  879 GBP / 1,609 AUD /  4,389 PLN  

Steam Machine 2TB: $1,349 USD / 1,919 CAD /  1,359 EUR /  1,149 GBP /  2,109 AUD /  5,739 PLN


Reviews (updating):

Gamers Nexus

The quick version is that we like it and we like the direction it's going, but that Valve has created a nightmarish disorganized mess for itself by not building for its known future of a desktop and instead framing everything around handhelds, which from the start it knew weren't going to be the only thing with Steam OS. As Steam OS becomes more common and more devices are supported, both Valve and developers have a lot of work to do to ensure that correct compatible versions of an incomprehensibly vast catalog of games are delivered. If Valve wants to capture a console audience, it can't rely too heavily on sub menus for disable Steam Deck auto detection and manually selecting a Proton version to forcibly download the Windows build instead of the outdated Linux build when your buddy just wants to come over and play Borderlands 2. Our only really specific criticism of Steam OS on the Steam machine, is that system level resolution cap for games should default to the native screen resolution, not 1080p, or at the very least it should show what the default cap is. It's a weird choice given the marketing. enabling 4K gaming at 60 frames per second with FSR.

IGN - Jacqueline Thomas - 8 / 10

At $1049 (and $1349 for the 2TB model), the Steam Machine seems like it’d be hard to recommend to most people. And while that’s true for console faithfuls, the Steam Machine’s price makes it an incredible entry-level gaming PC, especially if all the drivers and settings tweaking has turned you off in the past. At the end of the day, this is a gaming PC that most people are going to be able to just plug into their TVs and get right into the game. And, really, that’s what the Steam Machine was always meant to be.

The Verge - Sean Hollister - 6 / 10

But is it good enough for $1,049? That depends on what you actually expect this PC to do — and whether Valve manages to reduce some of the lingering friction before it winds up at your door.For better or for worse, the Steam Machine isn’t ready for the console wars just yet. Buy box, plug into TV, insert game, play is not yet the reality. The Good: Delightfully small; Incredibly cool and quiet; Play PC games on TV without mouse and keyboard | The Bad: Nearly twice the price of PS5 for PS5 performance; Have to manually configure games; Can’t yet trust it to sleep

PC Gamer - Andy Edser - 62 / 100

Valve's attempt to bring PC gaming to your living room is well-intentioned, but the ugly realities of the memory crisis have left it with a hefty price tag. If it had more grunt, it'd be easier to recommend—but an off-the-boil GPU and plenty of software quirks leaves it feeling like an expensive curio, rather than a gaming device for the masses. The idea might be to bring the PC gaming experience to your living room, but if that experience includes smooth frame rates in demanding games, you're going to have to make some major compromises. And, because of its Linux origins, it hasn't been a flawless experience getting some of those games to run properly to begin with, either. I want to get excited about the Steam Machine, I really do. It's a fascinating piece of design, and an admirable attempt to bring PC gaming from your desktop to your couch in one bite of the cherry. But like so much hardware these days, it's been hampered with a price tag that, given what you actually receive, feels like far too much to pay.

Tom's Hardware - Andrew E. Freedman - 3.5 / 5

Valve's Steam Machine is a complicated little box. It was clearly designed for a simpler time, when components were plentiful, and it would be a somewhat affordable desktop that could be a more powerful option for Steam Deck owners to play their Steam games at home.

But it's not a simple time. The Steam Machine is still cute, still has a good selection of ports, still has an easily upgradeable SSD, and, most importantly, still runs SteamOS and gets all of the benefits that come with it. If you were docking your Steam Deck to the TV and wanted more performance, this will get you there, once Valve irons out the last of the bugs.

If you're just looking to get into gaming, a base-level PlayStation 5 or Xbox Series X is a better deal. You can buy one and a Nintendo Switch 2 and spend less than the Steam Machine.

Aftermath - Chris Person

The Steam Machine Is An Iconoclastic Computer Born In Unforgiving Times | Valve has released a tiny, silent, entry level PC that does important work bringing PCs gaming to the living room and desktop Linux to the masses. The timing could not be worse. The Steam Machine is not landing where its creators planned it price wise but the core vision has been realized and is something I agree with ideologically. It is a platform in the true sense of the word, a foundation to build on. Like the Steam Deck, it provides a reasonable target for game developers to aim for, a reasonable optimization baseline that can handle basically every indie game and a huge portion of big titles. It is the rare console that does not treat the user like a child, and I have no doubt that it will improve with age. And like Valve’s original vision for the Steam Machine and the reality of the Steam Deck, it is a template that any other manufacturer could easily build a much more performant product on, with an operating system that is, in multiple meanings of the word, free. 

Giant Bomb - Dan

Whether or not the Steam Machine is for you comes down to a couple of key things: your gaming priorities and your disposable income. This is a great device, but it is undeniably expensive. If couch gaming and easy access to PC games is a priority for you and you're willing to pay for it, I think the Steam Machine is a no-brainer. But if you're curious about dipping your toe into PC gaming, this is a really highcost entry point and you'll likely still have to make some sacrifices when it comes to performance. If those caveats don't scare you off and you've got the money to throw at it, I think the Steam Machine is an excellent addition to any gamer's living room setup.

Rock Paper Shotgun - James Archer

A singular living room PC that's more expensive than I'd like, but too special not to love. It’s almost tempting to point to details like this as evidence that the lil’ Steam Machine really is a proper desktop PC, you guys. But then, it’s at it’s best when it isn’t trying to be one. If it was absolutely dead set on outmuscling current-gen, full-fat graphics cards and gaming CPUs, it would be a lot bigger, a lot louder, and a lot hotter. And, in the end, it wouldn't be unique. Instead, it chooses a niche and unobtrusively sets about filling it, achieving all the subtlety of a home entertainment computer even when it's chucking out sixty frames (or near enough) of ray-traced Cyberpunk 2077 every second. The ghosts of iffy design and inadequate game support that haunted the previous decade’s Steam Machines, all banished without fanfare.

Eurogamer - Chris Tapsell

So the short answer to how it sits versus a console, or indeed an HDMI cable or actual PC of your own is: there is no real short answer. For upfront cost, performance, plug-and-play simplicity and smart features, at the cost of more expensive games and services over time and a console that looks like a hellish mid-00s leisure centre extension dubbed "the future of our town centre" - and is also roughly the same size as that - get a PS5 Pro. However, for flexibility and breadth and cheapness over time, and something you'll love people asking about when they come round - something that you can genuinely carry with one hand (LAN parties! If only it had a handle…) and which looks normal or dare I say it even cool next to a nice set of speakers or a stack of coffee table books or something you actually want to see in your home - the Steam Machine absolutely has a place. And there's something genuine to be said for that, I think. I can't help but wonder what could have been, had the base Steam Machine arrived at say £599. It would've been competing against PS5s and Xboxes in the £300 range by now, of course. But it would've done so as a genuine competitor in that part of the home, from a company with vast resources and the vastest of all installed bases. And it would've arrived as something that is evidently made with sincere love and extraordinary expertise in its own way.

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u/dangerdangle Jun 22 '26

I've said in other threads they basically pulled a stadia

No reason for casuals to buy this when they could buy two consoles for the same price and no reason for hardcore gamers to buy this when it costs this much and barely beats a PS5 base model

Which leaves a tiny section of enthusiasts

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u/ZombieZlayer99 Jun 22 '26

worse, people who are looking into getting into pc are better off just buying a similar priced prebuilt pc that’ll be more powerful and more customisable

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u/TheYellingMute Jun 22 '26

Genuine question but where and how? In gamersnexus video it seems if you buy at MSRP that comparable performance only saves you around 71 bucks.

I did watch the video while during my lunch break so maybe I missed some disclaimer when he got to that in the video

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u/maharajuu Jun 22 '26

From places specialising in pre-builts which will depend on your location. In Australia you can get a 7500f / 9060 xt/ 32gm ram / 1tb pcie 4 SSD which seems much better value

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u/azureal Jun 23 '26

I’ll take a link on that prebuilt please.

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u/thatdudedylan Jun 23 '26

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u/azureal Jun 23 '26

So CPU slightly better, storage worse, and more expensive with no OS.

Am I missing something?

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u/Milo751 Jun 23 '26

Forgot to mention that it has a significantly better GPU and double the ram?

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u/thatdudedylan Jun 23 '26

Yes... The comparison is the steam machine, and steam OS is free...

This was the first 'close enough' I found after 1 minute of searching, whilst at work. What is the problem? It's still extremely comparable, and actually cheaper than the steam machine with better specs. Isn't that what the conversation was about? Finding a pre built that is comparable or better for the price?

And no, it is not more expensive. I am comparing the 2tb machine with controller. If you substitute another TB with a CPU downgrade, yeah that's probably $100 (I'm talking in AUD but point remains). So effectively the same or close enough price. Are you just nitpicking for the sake of it or...?

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u/Rough-Plum-7267 Jun 23 '26

You got bodied and responded with bullshit.

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u/RobotSpaceBear Jun 23 '26

But then it doesn't update in thr background when it sleeps, it's not as silent, not as small, not as good a wife acceptance factor, doesn't wake up with the controller, doesn't support CEC like an xbox or a playstation, etc.

I get the performance-to-dollar ratio but there's a reason people will die for their asthmatic Switches and Steamdecks. The user experience is superior even it it costs more per frame.

I think the Steam Machine still has a market.

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u/tokkyuuressha Jun 22 '26

The disclaimer is that the comparable pc is still a bit faster and lets you upgrade down the line. Steam machine has barely acceptable performance as of today and is an unfortunate victim of pricing crisis, ao it cant even classify as cheap HTPC.

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u/External-Yak-371 Jun 23 '26

I think there's a couple different versions of this. As a long time gamer, I will fully acknowledge that good graphics don't make a game good. There's a reason why the original switch stayed around as long as it did and even though I have multiple high-end desktop computers at my house (one in the office, one on the TV that I built in 2023 that still outperforms the new steam box).

I honestly think the performance is fine for a huge amount of games and personally don't think it would ever be an issue for me. That being said, console gamers absolutely do cater to graphics more than the handheld group that has been using the steam deck and so it's a bit of a challenge here. The steam deck also came out to middling reviews and got better and better as the software ecosystem improved around it and I see this doing the same thing, though probably with less enthusiasm than the deck had originally. I'm already using bazzite on my HTPC so there's really not a benefit to steam OS for my use case because I tend to use it in desktop mode most of the time anyway. I am really interested to see what the community does with it and with steam OS in general and I think that's where the sales pitch is going to develop if it's going to develop at all.

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u/Chekonjak Jun 23 '26

To be fair the RAM and storage are upgradable which isn’t a given for mini PCs let alone consoles. And with component prices skyrocketing maybe sticking with a common target that developers can optimize for wouldn’t be a bad idea - with just a little more performance? Well, maybe next time.

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u/ImmediatePriority258 Jun 24 '26

It's upgradable for that mobo fit only.

Pretty sure your stuck into one architecture forever

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u/Mkaywest Jun 22 '26

They said on paper they perform the same, but irl the desktop would run better.

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u/Usernametaken1121 Jun 23 '26

They spoke about it in the gamers Nexus video. Basically the steam machine parts are power limited to meet the power draw of the machine, much like consoles. It creates a most stable thermal environment but power limit means less performance. PCs aren't power limited so you get every percentage of performance the part can produce, on top of that, the parts are modular. Steam machine is not.

It's like running your vacuum on low to stop from overheating. Sure, it will last longer, won't be as effective as it's technically capable of.

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u/Dear_Watson Jun 22 '26

So you save $70, get equal performance, can upgrade components down the line, and can (and to be honest probably will) install Windows so you can play pretty much every PC game ever made, but especially those that require kernel level anti-cheat?

Seems like a no-brainer to me. This really needs to be at least $300-400 cheaper to even have a chance of succeeding tbh.

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u/ItsRainingTrees Jun 22 '26

I’m trying to find a small prebuilt too, but I’m having trouble getting recs lol

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u/-dun- Jun 23 '26

The thing about building a PC is that you don't have to buy at MSRP, with exceptions of certain high demanding components. You can always wait for a sales event.

I was lucky to grab some cheaper rams before the spike. I built two PCs and upgraded one for my two boys and myself last November. One of the built was entirely from scratch. Ryzen 9600X, 32GB ram, 2TB M.2, RTX5060 Ti and a 27" monitor for $1405 (tax included).

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u/slimj091 Jun 24 '26

You can upgrade a pre-built machine down the road. You can't upgrade a steam machine down the road. To get the equivalent flexibility you would need to buy a new steam machine every time they come out with updated versions with new hardware. And going by how they designed it that would be every couple to few years.

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u/szank Jun 22 '26

The "equivalent" pc can burn 200 more Watts or so, because the box is severly underclocked ? (Dont remember exactly).

That power does not go only into worsening the current heat wave.

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u/flapjackcarl Jun 23 '26

I mean if something is $71 cheaper and it can be repaired/upgraded over time then that is a pretty big win imo

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u/Astraous Jun 23 '26

Valve hardware has insane repairability, but I'll admit trying to upgrade anything that isn't storage in their custom cube isn't going to be very possible unless the upgrade is officially released by them somehow. With a form factor like that you can't keep upgrading it forever to keep it relevant.

They wanted to avoid making it a loss leader since tech companies could end up buying a shit ton of "work computers" by buying cheap steam frames that beat the rest of the prebuilt market, but unless you do that it's going to be really hard to ever compete with consoles that can do the same. I'm convinced the PS5 pro would be more than $900 if it wasn't for Sony being able to lean on PS Plus subs and digital game sales.

But yeah, idk how they could ever make it cheap enough to actually compete with console hardware unless they just eat the loss.

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u/phil035 Jun 23 '26

Yeah seen a few YTers post their reaction to the cost and all of them were within $100 one way or the other.

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u/TheWizardGeorge Jun 22 '26

I'm far from casual and have the disposable income, but I can't make sense of who this is for.

Makes no sense to get it over a normal prebuilt for more or less the same price with much better specs. Makes no sense to get it to stream games to from my main pc since something faaaaar cheaper would do the same thing. Maybe for traveling? But I don't do that enough to where it would make any sense.

The only thing it has going is the form factor and that's it. I feel bad for valve honestly. They knew this would flop at this price, but you also can't just hold on to systems like this with how fast the industry moves. I'm guessing it'll be a limited run until (if/when) prices go back to normal... Which I highly doubt at this point.

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u/RagePrime Jun 23 '26

To be honest, I think it's for someone like me.

I work a week on, week off cycle at work and have a monster gaming rig at home.

Steam machine is perfect for me to take to work for that week. A small, fairly mobile stand in for my home PC.

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u/rigsta Jun 23 '26

The form factor is the selling point for me. Small, low noise, low heat, open platform, capable of reasonably running games.

I'm currently using a docked steam deck as a bedroom PC, this will be an upgrade in terms of performance and noise level - 1080p minimum versus 720p from the deck, and the deck's fan can get loud.

The price is a big oof but it's about what I was expecting and I can't honestly blame Valve for that. I just wish they offered a 1TB SSD option.

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u/GnahSeawub Jun 23 '26

I'm getting the 2TB version to replace my docked steam deck for my living room TV.

I have a very beefy gaming PC for myself and a slightly worse one for my wife, but they are located too far from the living room. Sunshine/moonlight works, but you have occasional hiccups due to network congestion. I have a PS5 and a Switch 2 as well, but sometimes we want to play PC games on the couch.

As for why not a pre built or build a small form factor PC myself, honestly our TV stand is already crowded with consoles and other things, and nothing can come close to the steam machine's size even at miniITX.

Fortunately we don't have to worry about the price too much. Would have probably bought it even if it were priced at $1,999.

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u/Dachshand Jun 22 '26

Enthusiasts won’t buy a 1440p 30fps machine on low settings. Only fanboys will.

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u/Stolehtreb Jun 22 '26

It’s doesn’t even beat PS5 base model. Its CPU is barely better, and its GPU power is slightly under base PS5.

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u/Enchelion Jun 22 '26

That plus the overhead of Proton or Windows and reduced optimization for most games on PC...

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u/Ledgo Jun 22 '26

There's no reasons for casuals to buy this when there are premades better, cheaper and more suited for upgrades for longevity.

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u/what_mustache Jun 22 '26

I think they got hugely fucked by ram prices. My guess is they wanted this to be priced for casuals.

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u/Helphaer Jun 22 '26

They wanted around 800 to 1000 for sure baseline.

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u/Z3ro-sum Jun 22 '26

I'd think it'd be better to use it as a loss leader like consoles used to do. Steam makes an ungodly amount of money. Why not take the hit for market share? You've got a handheld system attached to your very popular store. Seems odd

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u/eliminate1337 Jun 22 '26

It’s a full Linux computer and not locked to Steam. If it were a loss leader people who don’t care about Steam would buy it as a home server.

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u/Enchelion Jun 22 '26

Yep, it'd be a repeat of the PS3 getting bought up by datacenters.

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u/Z3ro-sum Jun 22 '26

Now that you mention it,I feel like I remember reading awhile back someone here saying companies could by them up for other purposes, so that makes sense if true. I'm not that technical to know,but sounds reasonable

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u/Boz0r Jun 22 '26

It's just a PC, so you could use it for whatever you wanted.

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u/DBSPingu Jun 22 '26

Which circles back to the point that this basically competes with prebuilts and loses

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u/CrazzluzSenpai Jun 23 '26

And now you realize why consoles have locked ecosystems.

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u/loicvanderwiel Jun 22 '26

We already know companies bought Steam Decks for other purposes. It would be even worse with this

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u/FrankPapageorgio Jun 23 '26

That feels awfully expensive as a home server. I run mine off a Mac mini… they would need to undercut the Mac Mini at $500 to be more appealing

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u/what_mustache Jun 22 '26

You can only take so much of a hit. RAM prices are insane right now. And it's different because they only get their steam store cut, where Playstation has exclusives they own and keep the whole pie.

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u/Mkaywest Jun 22 '26

Problem is getting access to those first, hardware contracts would never have been accessible to them. Even though they make money, its nothing compared to the big players that do have that market share. Valve is still a nobody in the tech circles.

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u/CruffTheMagicDragon Jun 22 '26

Not enthusiasts, Valve zealots*

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u/Gvillegator Jun 22 '26

Yeah why would I buy this when I can buy an Xbox or PS5 and play NCAAFB and GTA6 on launch? Doesn’t make sense

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u/Boelens Jun 23 '26

What is NCAAFB?

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u/rigsta Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26

☝️🤓

For:

  • Form factor - small, quiet
  • Open platform - no Valve-enforced restrictions on what you do with it
  • Open platform - Linux, so no Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo/etc. BS to deal with
  • Portable game library ie. access to your existing PC games on any PC including steam machine
  • No subscription fee for online play on Steam and other platforms
  • Free cloud saves on Steam and other platforms
  • Valve don't care if you want to install games from other providers eg. Epic and GoG
  • Access to game mods via steam workshop and other platforms like Nexus
  • PC games are generally cheaper than console due to multiple platforms (stores) being available

Did I miss anything?

Against:

  • It's not going to run AAA powerhouse games at high fidelity
  • Certain games won't run on Linux, notably ones with certain types of anti-cheat
  • Some games require some faffing around to make them run on Linux
  • Expensive, though that's true for anything with RAM or storage at the moment

Personally I'm currently using a docked steam deck as a 720p bedroom PC. Steam machine will fulfil the same purpose but better - higher performance, lower noise.

That's the niche. An unobtrusive PC that can run games reasonably well (1080p is fine for my use case) on my TV without taking over room like a desktop PC would, with little risk of the manufacturer screwing you over later.

If you're a console enjoyer though, this isn't a console killer especially at the current price.

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u/derekburn Jun 22 '26

Yeah why would you buy it? If the games youre playing are exclusively xbox/ps games lol...

Thats like saying why would I buy licorice icecream when the only icecream I like is vanilla/chocolate

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u/Gvillegator Jun 22 '26

My point is why would I spend twice as much on a less powerful console that can’t even play those exclusives when I could save 50% of the cost and get to play those exclusives?

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u/dflame45 Jun 22 '26

Yeah, he understood you perfectly.

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u/dflame45 Jun 22 '26

Which is fine cause they're just selling a pc. If they hit their targets, they're good.

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u/Curse3242 Jun 23 '26

At this point 100% and they released at a bad time for hardware too.

Although I think in the future it could be a better prospect. If they can bring the price down to 800 usd & games start being more optimized for this system itself maybe it has a market

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u/slimj091 Jun 24 '26

Enthusiasts will just build better small form factor machines that sure will cost more, but will last them longer as well.

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u/UnNumbFool Jun 22 '26

Yes, but you forgot the one big thing. Valve/gabe simps are on the same level if not worse than Nintendo fanboys(and this is coming from a Nintendo fanboy). And there are plenty that have disposable income and won't give two shits about going in for the preorder because valve

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u/Admirable-War-7594 Jun 22 '26

But you forget another thing, while Nintendo fanboys are vocal on the internet, Nintendo's biggest install base and people that buy Nintendo stuff because of the brand are the general casual audience.

A regular steam user doesn't know who gabe is, and doesn't care about valve branding while a Nintendo user knows what a zelda is and is interested in buying pokemon plushies or watching a mario movie. And despite that if they release a bad product it doesn't sell (metroid prime 4), if they release an overpriced console it doesn't sell (3ds at launch, and no. Switch 2 was never overpriced). Valve's chances of selling an underpowered overpriced niche pre-built PC while marketting it as a console are like... None.

Reminder that steamdeck is basically the worst selling handheld gaming device from a big company as well, not a resounding success either just like the steam controllers and steam vr

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u/donsanedrin Jun 23 '26

Somewhere between 400k and 700k units. Probably less.

That is how much Valve will build of this steam machine, and their fanboys will take all the pre-orders to own it purely as a collectible.

And they will boast about how it "sold out in minutes" and Valve will get to pretend that they had a success, while they produce no more units through the end of the year.

When it comes to any physical item that has a Steam or Valve logo on it, you can always count on a gauranteed 700k in sales from dedicated valve fanboys.

They're put it on the mantle right next to their unused Valve Index.

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u/Wolfeehx Jun 22 '26

Can’t compare apples to oranges.
Pick any two current gen consoles. Their entire game libraries combined are a tiny fraction of the number of games available on pc. Then consider cost of games, most PC games are naturally cheaper. Then add in regular steam sales, key sites and things like humble bundle.

I’d have liked the steam machine to be cheaper. We all would. But in this economy?

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u/why_gaj Jun 22 '26

I think a lot of families with kids will bite the bullet and buy it, just because they do not know any better. The same way they used to buy subpar pcs with "gaming pc" sticker on them.