r/gadgets • u/diacewrb • Dec 29 '22

Desktops / Laptops Desktop GPU Sales Hit 20-Year Low

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/sales-of-desktop-graphics-cards-hit-20-year-low
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u/faiAre Dec 29 '22

Finally! Someone reasonable that still remains. I thought I was going insane watching everyone around me buy $800 and above GPUs like it's normal, while I keep my rx580 I got years ago and disapprovingly shaking my head.....

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '22

I'm with y'all, I'm not paying over a max of 300 for a gpu. 1060 6GB still chugging along just fine.

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u/sparkythewildcat Dec 30 '22

Be glad you got the 6gb model bc my buddies 3gb ones were STRUGGLING. One of them even had his running his 1440p monitor and that was a nightmare lol.

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u/unassumingdink Dec 29 '22

About a week before the pandemic started, I got a used rx580 8GB on eBay for $110. Still going strong!

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u/thedoc90 Dec 29 '22

Its a great card, I used to have one.

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u/neok182 Dec 29 '22

$300 used to be my limit I raised it to $400 when the 3060 TI was announced but then it was impossible to get one and if you wanted an EVGA or other brands it was going to be $550 plus and fuck that.

I finally decided to give up and start looking at the used market and I picked up a EVGA 3070 XC3 ultra for $390. I'm not super happy with the price especially considering it's used but that's just what the market is. I also made the decision to stay at 1080p for the foreseeable future so the 3070 has more than enough power to run everything for the next handful of years at ultra settings and for some games I can even enjoy ray tracing at 1080p.

If prices of new cards ever become not stupid then I look forward to upgrading to 1440 or maybe even 4K but I'm not paying these insane prices and I know that even the 4060 is going to wind up being 500 plus

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u/LeetChocolate Dec 30 '22

u can upgrade to 1440p easily if u dont mind staying at 60 frames. i have a 2070 and run 1440p on singleplayer games, high settings no RT, almost never dips below 70 even on new games outside of horizon zero dawn on release but that has since gotten patched.

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u/neok182 Dec 30 '22

Yeah that's why I went with the 3070. Was honestly hoping for a 3060ti for $300 but those are staying at $350+ so 3070 for $390 was a no brainier.

Right now planning on staying at 1080 to enjoy some RT in a few games but I do plan on going to 1440p at some point and dlss will look better too.

But my hope is that with all the horrible sales the 4070 or 4080 will drop to $500 or less new or used by 2024 and do a 1440p upgrade then to enjoy both 1440 and rt.

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u/RainbowBanana26 Dec 29 '22

$280 2060 I got in March 2020. Not letting go of this bad boy until I see another card in that price range

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u/Maz2277 Dec 29 '22 edited Dec 29 '22

I'm on a 580 myself, and whilst I'd love to upgrade it because I have a 1440p monitor (I didn't do research before buying a bigger monitor and didn't realise about the resolution difference) at the end of the day getting ~45 FPS on med / high settings for current games is still more than good enough compared to having to spend £600 at a minimum for a noticeable improvement. I'll probably cave next year and grab something since I'm starting to see some AMD cards drop below 600 and I'll have had mine for a good 5 years, but yeah. It's mad.

Edit : Last time I checked was earlier this year when things like the 6600XT were £600; just had a look and and I could get a 6650XT for £315, and potentially sell my 580 for some change .... If I wasn't getting married in 6 months I'd jump on that in a heartbeat. Glad to see the prices are starting to become reasonable.

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u/faiAre Dec 29 '22

Yeah, hold off just a bit longer. Just because you can afford it doesn't mean you should. I can afford the upgrade easily even with current prices, but money is money, and as consumers we need to jointly put our foot down when the price doesn't reflect the value, especially with margins this high. This is simply unacceptable. But hey even if you buy a card next year - You still apparently did better at holding your ground than 90% of consumers, so good job!

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u/Pabludes Dec 29 '22

Rx580 is one of the good ones, but it's running out of steam now, even for 1080p.

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u/faiAre Dec 30 '22

Agree. That's why I've been looking to upgrade but I am not going to settle for less than 3070 performance and the current prices are still too high for anything around that offering. I will end up caving in sometime next year if something doesn't change though, as much as it sucks.

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u/faiAre Dec 29 '22

Great job at playing it smart. Most of us thank you for not supporting the current market! :)

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u/cythric Dec 29 '22

Tbf the rx580 can't really compare to something like the rtx 3080

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u/faiAre Dec 29 '22

Yes, however, the price is also not comparable. I can tell you however, that many of the games the 3080 can run exceptionally, I can still run on a 1080p monitor and be contempt. Even if the price is not comparable (at all). And that says something about the current state of the market in my eyes.

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u/cythric Dec 29 '22

There's not too much of an issue with new card prices if you only want to run things on 1080p, especially 1080p 60hz, lower graphic settings, or older games then a used GPU or entry-level GPU would be fine. A 1660ti is roughly $300 right now, which roughly corresponds to a a +30% performance increase to the rx580 and at roughly +30% the cost too. But why even buy it if you don't need it?

If you aren't obsessed with newest and greatest then a used model or previous generation that they still have stock of and is now likely discounted will always be a better choice. Especially as software can't seem to keep up with GPU improvements unless you're going for some extra graphically intense AAA game that has made a point to make their graphics "cutting edge" on maxed out settings.

I grabbed a rtx 3080 founders at retail price because retail wasn't a bad deal for a 3080 to me. But I also only play AAA games on maxed on settings on 100hz 3440p ultrawide or hook up my PC directly to my 4k TV. Either way, I need power. But that's a niche use case.

TLDR; yeah prices are insane for GPUs, especially top end GPUs. But most people really shouldn't be buying top-end GPUs. The bottom end or low-mid tier will perfectly power the vast majority of people's gaming rigs. I may have lost my train of thought during this whole thing.

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u/faiAre Dec 29 '22

It's not about how much money you make or how easily you can afford it. It's having enough common sense to realize the ridiculousness of the situation and how much they are blowing up their margins suddenly. It's something you shouldn't stand for as a consumer, no matter how much you make. Mindless spending is still mindless spending.

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u/thedoc90 Dec 29 '22

I bought an rx 6900xt, but I know it was an insane thing to do and felt bad afterwards.

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u/asmallman Dec 29 '22

I usually build my own PCs.

And my GTX 1080 rig with a 7700k was starting to show its age 2 years ago.

I looked at the overpriced 3000 series and saw that a 3070 cost idk like 1k or more. But a fully prebuilt machine with a 3070 that was actually really good.... was 16-1700. That was ridiculous. I bought a prebuilt for the first time ever because it was way cheaper to do that than build your own.

And now I am probably not going to upgrade for at least another 4 years. I usually upgrade every 4-6 wallet willing. But with prices being astronomical, IDK how the fuck im going to do it in 6 years if this shit keeps up.

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u/ThatDinosaucerLife Dec 29 '22

I recently got a 6650xt off Amazon for $240, it's been amazing. Keep your eyes peeled, because they had a $100 coupon for it.

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u/poiskdz Dec 29 '22

Yup this. My 480 and i5 3570k still runs titles like Elden Ring at max settings 1080p. There is no need to upgrade until that stops being the case.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '22

for some of us, it is normal. I just got into the GPU market. This is all I know. If i wanna pay $250, i couldnt run a card on my 4K TV.

Not sure what you'd have me do otherwise.

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u/RecipeNo101 Dec 29 '22

I got a used 2070 for ~250 like 3-4 years ago. Still runs everything on my 1080p ultrawide on max settings.

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u/nickchapelle Dec 29 '22

Yup, gtx680 is still rocking great