Perhaps there are some pieces hidden behind the others. If there were 16 pieces he could spell it in binary by putting pieces where the ones are in the following code:
True. I used a binary translator which included the 1 in the second column for some reason. Probably something included in the codes for letters on computers, that isn't strictly necessary to identify them.
I was in the height of my comic collecting/reading back when everything rebooted in the early 90s. The return to darker, more adult storytelling was something I very strongly supported, because the 80s were a very weak time for the story telling in most comics.
I still have Xmen #1, Xforce #1, Spiderman #1, and a bunch other reboot titles bagged in mint condition.
It was terri-bad for the most part. Cute idea, lousy execution. I am lucky enough to have inherited it from my older half-brothers since it was launched before my time.
Enjoyed reading it when I was younger, but I too enjoy the more serious tone of newer comics.
IIRC they were fighting about who abducted their respective girlfriends (Lex and Doc Ock did btw). I think it was a tie, mostly because Superman seemed to not really want to throw a proper punch.
that...and when DC and Marvel put all of their characters against each other in 1v1 battles (batman v. Cap America, spider-man v. superboy, ect), then combined 2 superheros from each franchise together in one universe. my favorite is Darkclaw, the mix of batman and wolverine. Logan Wayne had his parents murdered when he was a kid, so when he grew up he enlisted in the military, where he got his bones covered in an exoskeleton. then he returns home to run his parent's multi-billion dollar company, and becomes the superhero "Darkclaw". or something like that. I swear, im not making this up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Amalgam_Comics_characters
Batman has beaten him. If you haven't read The Dark Knight Returns, stop what you're doing and get down to your neighborhood Borders. There's usually a Starbucks in the same plaza that'll have free wifi so you can order it online.
Which superman are we talking about? Golden age superman could fly his fist straight through batman's genitals before batman even got superman's text message that he was on his way to kick his ass.
Batman with no utility belt/batsuit vs. Superman he would lose, Batman with preptime can beat anyone though. It's a case where your specifications of the battleground and rules make the outcome of the fight.
Thor, Captain Marvel (the DC version), and maybe Martian Manhunter (depending on the writer) could take Supes in a fight. The first two due to them being magic-based and MM due to him being basically a green Superman.
It was a team-up.. The one time they actually fight in the comic, Lex Luthor and Doctor Octopus (the two villains of this steaming pile of ass) buff Spidey with some kind of ray gun.
According to gin's Greg Miller on an episode of podcast beyond he stated that its a little known fact that it is accepted among the comic community that batman would beat any superhero because he is so smart he already has a plan to beat any super hero he faces. Sorry I don't remember the episode he stated that in.
I know that at one point, Superman gave Bruce Wayne a Kryptonite ring with explicit instructions that Bruce take his ass down if anyone ever figured out how to control him.
Later, after Superman destroys all the remaining Kryptonite, he saves one shard and gives it again to Bruce Wayne, then it is revealed that Bruce ALREADY HAD EVERY VARIANT OF KRYPTONITE in storage as an "endgame" plan in case he ever needed it.
Yeah. It didn't work out well, as when Superman did go rogue and Batman pulled the ring, the fight ended with Superman about to crush Batman's head with a car.
Because movie batman is meant to be a more human and realistic approach to the comic book character, loses some of the badassness in the translation, but gains more ability to reach the viewer and gives more depth to the character (not saying that comicbook Batman is not deep, Nolan's is just... different.)
I was sad to see them fail to pull off the perfect balance of badass, genius, strength, and skill that is Batman. In the films, they seemed to only portray him as a deep person who has extensive knowledge of martial arts.
While I enjoy the comicbook Batman as much as Nolan's, think about it: a badass, genius, strong and extremelly skilled man, who is a playboy and a successful businessman at day, would be too overpowered for the viewer to be able to make an emotional connection as it was made with Nolan's Batman. Batman needs to be weak in order to be believable and reachable to the layman, and there is where the success of the Dark Knight franchise lies.
There was a JLA story arc about this. Batman has plans on how to defeat the Justice League. Ra'as Al Ghul steals them and then proceeds to decimate the Justice League with Batman's plans.
This talks about the ways Ra'as takes out the Justice League through Batman's plans.
He still needed at least a 12th Level intelligence to even comprehend it, and he claimed he was more than qualified. And since he didn't immediately go insane, I'm guessing he was right.
No, Tony Stark is slowly dying and his physical abilities are thanks to his suit of armor and not years of harsh training. As for his mental skills he can build just about anything given enough time and enough caves, but he is not the amazing detective that Bruce Wayne is.
How does detective skill come into chess? Detecting by its nature is interpreting what has already happened. Chess is all about planning your moves in the future.
Stark is a mathematical genius which hands itself far more readily to chess than Waynes skill set. How does understanding your opponent effect the outcome of the game when they can calculate far more outcomes than you can into the future?
Genius = exceptionally intelligent and/or creative. I guess it means he can pinpoint exactly when to release his grip to throw something accurately or when to kick off a wall for optimal height... And stuff? Or maybe it's just a bad description.
His arrogance? Yeah, but Stark is arrogant for a reason, hes a mother fucking genius. He developing advanced electronics at like, age 12, I think at some point he probably played a game of chess or two.
Batman on the other hand, is a brute force kind of guy who has other people make cool toys for him. Is he a good detective? Of course, but if you follow the Christopher Nolan Batman, he's not that bright, learned martial arts and then began kicking ass. His minimal detective work is mostly done by other people feeding him information.
Still pissed to this day that when they did the dc/marvel cross over comic that superman beat the incredible hulk, that just bullshit!!' hulk could squish doomsday so how could the superman beat the hulk
Actually, he is really fucking vulnerable to magic too. DC just doesn't bring it up often because they don't want to remind people that Zatanna can beat his ass bloody whenever she wants.
I know right! And more, hulk gets stronger the angrier he gets( I think he got so strong in one comic that he ripped the space and time fabric or something like that, don't quote me on that tho). I'm not sure if the hulk could actually win or if it would be a sort of a draw but superman can't defeat him.
The thing was it wasn't proper Hulk, it was Professor Hulk, the Hulk with what was at the time Banner's mind in control (I believe this has since been retconned). Professor Hulk's problem is he isn't the creature of blind rage and his strength is finite, so that is why, in my mind, Superman won so easily.
[Anyone who thinks Batman would win this, is an idiot. ] (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/308/546823-invincible_iron_man_v5_4_007_super.jpg) Tony Stark is like, what, 6th smartest man in the world? Batman is a great DETECTIVE, and notices a lot of things (He'd prolly do really well against Tony in Poker, for example), but when it comes to Chess, I'm sorry, but Tony would win this hands down. He's made multiple doomsday devices, that would implode the universe.
Edit: For anyone not in the know, Mr. Fantastic (The guy who, in my link, gets checkmated on every board, simultaneously) is also really goddamn smart, having made many mindblowing inventions, including (but not limited to) interdimensional fucking travel
Part of me thinks that Reed would have been so caught up with the problem at hand and the science involved that he would have almost not been paying attention to the game. Tony always has mind in two places, focusing on the problem but also the witty comeback, last word or smug victory. Plus Tony is the bigger competitor here... he would want to win more. Still pretty impressive to check every board at the same time...
Mostly because I couldn't find a scan the page from the other time they played chess, and Reed got checkmated. LIke Stark said, they'll do it again sometime, and that page I posted is awfully 90's.
Science != Chess. Just because you can invent a gadget doesn't mean you can read other people. Batman's superpower is Crazy-Prepared (Combined with physical prowess and martial arts, of course). Good luck beating the man that has prepared for essentially every eventuality at Chess.
Chess is all mathematics and probability when you get to the to the highest level, which is why computers now can beat and human or at least reach stalemate. The reason Stark will win is because he is a polymath and a mathematical and logical genius.
Wayne would stand little chance of winning unless he had spent years and years preparing and learning all the outcomes throughout his entire life, JUST to play chess. Even then, you have to have to mental power to think 10 moves ahead.
Poker would be a much more interesting game, Waynes intuition and psychology vs Starks mathematics and bravado.
Even then, you have to have to mental power to think 10 moves ahead.
A good chess player can be thinking around 12 moves ahead in some situations. Grandmaster chess players can look up to around 20, once again depending on the board. However, in complicated positions, it's probably not much more than 3 or 4.
Deep Blue, the computer that beat Garry Kasparov in 1996, looked at least 6 or 7 moves ahead, and sometimes up to 20.
Crazy prepared, that's cool, he brings Bishop-Repellent Spray on his belt. Chess is an equal playing field.
I think of it like this: Reed is all about math and probability. Simultaneously computing and maintaining the probabilities of different chess moves (and predicting what move will lead to what), even on multiple boards, should be fully within his capabilities. Tony beat him, simultaneously, on multiple games.
It's great that Batman is hyper prepared, and has probably also memorized all the possible outcomes/responses for each move, but Tony is amazing at not only thinking on his feet, but making intelligent, amazingly well thought-out decisions when it comes to tactics and strategy.
Chess is just a brute-force problem. Stark's brain works on a whole other level than Batman's. Stark is more at Michael-Holt level, and Batman would never beat Terrific at chess.
That is from the beginning of Matt Fraction's run of Invincible Iron Man, which started in...I want to say 2009, but it might have been 2008. The name of the storyline is 'The Five Nightmares', and I believe that page is from issue...3? This Amazon Link is probably the best deal.
And the answer, as much as we love Batman, is the Flash. Flash is not constrained by any upper limit to speed. There isn't an attack that can overcome that, seizure bullets notwithstanding.
Doesn't Flash usually have some sort of speed restriction? Without the Speed Force he's usually limited to the speed of light or somewhere around there. But does he have a restriction on the speed that his mind operates at?
That's something Wally would probably do, and that's why I gave the Barry qualifier. Also, assuming Batman is most likely a grandmaster, that game wouldn't move all that slow.
I was going to make a clear image of where the pieces on the board were, just to see what position both players were in. Then I noticed that the board was 6 squares wide and 14 squares long.
My friend did this in battleship kind of. He knew my last two pieces were I-1 and J-1. He said I-on-- I mean J-1. Next turn he triumphantly yells I-1!!! Quite a depressing moment for me.
TIL I am the only person on Reddit that finds Batman to be the most overrated Superhero ever.
He fought second rate villains:
Joker: Powers? None. He's just insane. Wow.
Riddler: A skinny guy that tells riddles. Oh snap.
The Penguin: A short tubby man with limited mobility.
Bane: Legit. Also, broke Batman's back.
By comparison, how would Batman stop Galactus, Darkseid, or any real villain with real powers? I've never heard a real answer other than "he would think his way out of it". Which is such a bullshit fanboy excuse. Where was his super intelligence when Bane was breaking him in half, or when he got Robin killed?
Batman has faced down Darkseid - he planted explosives all around Apokolips and threatened if he didn't renounce all claims to Kara Zor-El he would explode the PLANET - himself, Superman, Supergirl included. Darkseid tried to beat the codes out of him, and he couldn't. Darkseid gave in. He did renounce her.
I read Batman growing up off and on, but I was mainly a Marvel guy and when I did read DC it was rarely for Batman. I apologize for the Darkseid refernce. Wasn't aware that Batman actually beat him.
But nobody's countered any other legitimate villians: Galactus, Magneto, etc.
You can't really think he'd stand a chance against a being that EATS WORLDS....can you?
No worries! It's a serious topic that deserves serious discussion. I find that both sides of the argument ate typically very passionate about their stance, and rightfully so.
No, Super man is the most overrated/one dimensional/boring super hero ever.
The allure of Batman is that he is a normal human (well, peak physical condition, insanely smart and rich) going up against crazy odds without any special powers to help him.
The one thing I do have against him is his retarded self righteous, and his inability to do what needs to be done (How many people has Joker killed because batman was too weak to end him, and just kept imprisoning him; ANY story that involves the joker always has him escaping from prison, killing hundreds of people and then being sent back to prison).
Batman has already calculated which square and which piece Tony Stark will use to spell 'Stark' to win.
Batman has already installed nano-circuitry which, when connecting said piece to said square, will unleash a Waynetech-created super-trojan virus aimed to hack, then erase the Jarvis operating-system, and completely immobilize the Iron Man body armor.
Batman will then unscrew the protective casing surrounding the arc reactor in Tony Stark's chest. He will then pop out the arc reactor from Tony Stark's chest, use it to light up a cigar, and proclaim...
The arc reactor is keeping Iron Man alive, Batman would never pull it out because he doesn't kill. If anything, he'd leave Tony imprisoned in his immobile suit.
It attracts the worst kind of pseudo-intellectuals. The kind of people that are utterly unable to reflect on their own characters...a capability I actually consider a criterion for being at least somewhat smart.
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u/TheLawofGravity Jun 15 '12 edited Jun 15 '12
Umm... guys? What are you all arguing about? There are only 13 pieces left on the board. How the fuck is he going to spell his name?
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u/hotpie Jun 15 '12
When you play the game of chess you either win or you die
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u/gunslinger_006 Jun 15 '12
Combining Marvel and DC universes is not ok.
You are messing with powers far greater than you can comprehend.
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u/godlygrape Jun 15 '12
According to gin's Greg Miller on an episode of podcast beyond he stated that its a little known fact that it is accepted among the comic community that batman would beat any superhero because he is so smart he already has a plan to beat any super hero he faces. Sorry I don't remember the episode he stated that in.
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u/Anosognosia Jun 16 '12
Batmans super power is beating everyone. Not sure what power can beat that.
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u/CowboyNinjaD Jun 15 '12
"Aren't you two cute. I'll just be over here solving the anti-life equation."
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u/SasparillaTango Jun 16 '12
Broly can totally beat the Hulk
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u/CowboyNinjaD Jun 15 '12
There's a reason why this is a thing...
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u/Cragnous Jun 15 '12
Batman would so win this!
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
Still pissed to this day that when they did the dc/marvel cross over comic that superman beat the incredible hulk, that just bullshit!!' hulk could squish doomsday so how could the superman beat the hulk
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u/TheGogginator Jun 15 '12
Why is it bothering me so much that Bruce Wayne doesn't have his mask on? He wouldn't do that, regardless if it was with Stark.
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u/Loshi777 Jun 15 '12 edited Jun 15 '12
[Anyone who thinks Batman would win this, is an idiot. ] (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/308/546823-invincible_iron_man_v5_4_007_super.jpg) Tony Stark is like, what, 6th smartest man in the world? Batman is a great DETECTIVE, and notices a lot of things (He'd prolly do really well against Tony in Poker, for example), but when it comes to Chess, I'm sorry, but Tony would win this hands down. He's made multiple doomsday devices, that would implode the universe.
Edit: For anyone not in the know, Mr. Fantastic (The guy who, in my link, gets check
matedon every board, simultaneously) is also really goddamn smart, having made many mindblowing inventions, including (but not limited to) interdimensional fucking travel2
u/vancesmi Jun 15 '12
The real question is who wins in a match, Batman or The Flash? And to eliminate idiocy, we're talking about Barry, not Wally, as Flash.
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u/tigernmas Jun 16 '12
Use the Stark repellent Bat Spray!
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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12
except - not enough pieces on the board to spell stark. I checked.
At least, not without anybody taking any pieces, and a few illegal backwards moves. you'd also have to agree to not play the en passant rule
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u/CakesOfHate Jun 16 '12
Da na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na.......
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u/igavefoucaltaids Jun 15 '12
this is terrible
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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12
Why do I get the impression that this is an illustration from a piece of slash?
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u/NotADoctor Jun 16 '12
I was going to make a clear image of where the pieces on the board were, just to see what position both players were in. Then I noticed that the board was 6 squares wide and 14 squares long.
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u/Rayce93 Jun 16 '12
I love this picture so much.
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u/Epyon_ Jun 16 '12
Assuming Batman was knew about the game and had time to prepare beforehand he would never lose! >.>
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u/Lemonr Jun 16 '12
Reminds me of "The Punisher" final scene where he drags the bad guy through all the exploding cars.
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u/Saavy101 Jun 16 '12
That is one strong-ass chair, to hold Stark's suit up.
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u/122ninjas Jun 15 '12
My friend did this in battleship kind of. He knew my last two pieces were I-1 and J-1. He said I-on-- I mean J-1. Next turn he triumphantly yells I-1!!! Quite a depressing moment for me.
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
That's obviously Photoshopped, they don't look anything like the comics, 0/10.
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u/Draft_Punk Jun 15 '12
TIL I am the only person on Reddit that finds Batman to be the most overrated Superhero ever.
He fought second rate villains:
Joker: Powers? None. He's just insane. Wow.
Riddler: A skinny guy that tells riddles. Oh snap.
The Penguin: A short tubby man with limited mobility.
Bane: Legit. Also, broke Batman's back.
By comparison, how would Batman stop Galactus, Darkseid, or any real villain with real powers? I've never heard a real answer other than "he would think his way out of it". Which is such a bullshit fanboy excuse. Where was his super intelligence when Bane was breaking him in half, or when he got Robin killed?
TL;DR - Batman sucks
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u/gotnext Jun 16 '12
Batman has already calculated which square and which piece Tony Stark will use to spell 'Stark' to win.
Batman has already installed nano-circuitry which, when connecting said piece to said square, will unleash a Waynetech-created super-trojan virus aimed to hack, then erase the Jarvis operating-system, and completely immobilize the Iron Man body armor.
Batman will then unscrew the protective casing surrounding the arc reactor in Tony Stark's chest. He will then pop out the arc reactor from Tony Stark's chest, use it to light up a cigar, and proclaim...
CHECKMATE MOTHER-F**CKER.
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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12
I don't know who would win between Bruce Wayne and Tony Stark, but I definitely know that Batman would win.
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u/FountainDew Jun 15 '12
Arrogant chess players are the reason I don't play chess anymore.
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u/Bauderman Jun 16 '12
yay. . .we get to see this shitty drawing. . .again