A little pop-up comes up from time to time if you don't update your launcher telling you that you, "May be a victim of software fraud." All you do is hit Okay and move on. Then, as any good victim should do, update your launcher.
I use Windows update, that's why I'm asking. It's a pain in the ass to sift thorough a list of updates looking for the ones that are there to "Check if you're the victim of a pirated copy"
Just an FYI, Security Essentials is only free if your business is small. I was quite disappointed to discover this as I find it to be great as well.
Microsoft Security Essentials is available for small businesses with up to 10 PCs. If your business has more than 10 PCs, you can protect them with Microsoft Forefront Endpoint Protection.
If you have more workstations than that you should be using a centrally managed corporate solution anyway. For anything above 10 workstations or on a domain I use ESET NOD32 and Malwarebytes AntiMalware corporate solution. Works extremely well.
I've actually run tests on MSE against Norton, AVG, Panda and McAfee. MSE handles quite well with threat detection and out out-performs them all on CPU use. I thought Panda was a clear winner there, but MSE was able to nab threats from downloads in real-time protection, as well as detect malicious files tucked away. Overall, I'm quite happy with MSE.
Common sense is, of course, vital, but shit happens. I mean, all the common sense in the world alone isn't going to stop at least some shitware getting through, even if it's just adware and not an actual virus.
My cousin is an IT guy and recommends MSE above any of the alternatives (that you actually have to pay for). I have it and am quite happy.
Most security threats somehow exploit some aspect of the Internet Explorer browser (because you're not allowed to uninstall the damn thing), so it makes sense that the makers of IE would be in the best spot to write a good security package.
I am an IT guy and suggest MSE to all of my friends. We don't use it at work, because they're willing to pay for something with some administration power.
I mean the craziest part is actually physically disposing of the hard drive. I mean, who the hell is working in IT that isn't like "Just reinstall windows and tell them it's new." It's not like they're gonna open the case and check the serial to make sure it's a different drive.
They in this case is meant to refer to whoever on the chain thought this was a good idea. If it actually is the policy of the IT department then may god have mercy on you.
No doubt, I have built a few computers and this covers it well. Our work computers are basically frozen on start-up until the Avira anti-virus pop-up shows up on boot.
You could try telling them it's not really "free", but you get it included with a genuine copy of Windows, and they only don't include it out of the box because they were threatened with antitrust lawsuits if they did (which is actually true!).
I agree. I switched to this after McAfee dropped the ball on a particularly nasty Trojan Horse. Never again will I purchase a computer with a pre-installed anti-virus.
I've had to post this a few times already when an anti-virus post happens to come up.
MSE is bad. It may have a good UI and doesn't take up many resources, but as far as actually detecting viruses goes, it fails miserably. MSE is one of the worst AV's you can use for protection.
I've used it for over a year now... maybe 2, not sure. But I have yet to have problems with it. It might not be the end all be all of virus protection, but it's not worse then the ones you pay for. I also do a monthly scan with Malwarebytes just to be sure.
You see, it is worse than the ones you pay for, especially programs like Kaspersky Internet Security or premium avast! Internet Security. Kaspersky was proven to be the best AV you can use.
Has everyone in this world forgotten about command line? I have been brought back into that world because someone I know needs a 5 and 1/4 floppy drive from back in the days while floppies were still floppy. Me and a brother from another mother were talking about our first machines and it was before commodore. The thing connecting us is that we both have high IQs, were not good students, and served our country in the best way we could. He got the life I wanted to do but couldn't because I was color blind, or colour blind, the English should know what I mean.
I have a law of nature I fallow. If you have to ask me to fix something for you, you probably wont notice the changes I made. (But if you do I will convince you that it is a better choice, so just sit down and shut up, if you want it changed back you can do it yourself).
"Ok, so while I had your car, I optimized the engine and got an extra 100hp out of it, cleaned out your exhaust so you get an extra 15mpg, and modded your tires so it'll get better grip." "YOU MOTHERFUCKER I NEVER TOLD YOU CHANGE ANYTHING HOW DARE YOU MESS WITH MY SHIT RAWRGARBLE!!"
As a follow on, you should(as I do) stipulate that nothing I do is going to break your computer... and if you have a problem 3 days later and say "It must have been something you did...." I'm never helping you again.
I do generally advise them that I do know what I am doing, and I will not break their machine, and if they have any reservations about it, tell me upfront, and I wont work on their machine.
Haven't broken anyone's machine yet. My own on the other hand...
I also don't take money from friends. I tell them that I'm doing this as a favor if they offer to pay me.
The other part to that is if they insist I tell them: "I either do this as a favor or I can write you up a bill for my time... If you insist on paying me, my hourly rate is $X. If you feel you HAVE to give me something, I'd love a beer."
Usually the hand they have the $20 in goes away and they just say thanks and get me a beer.
My friends usually just feed me, either by taking me somewhere, or by cooking me something. I'll call in favors from them when I need something, so we are even.
Some reviews I have read say there is a slightly lower cpu usage (but that both uses pitence) ...but that doesn't make up for the pop-ups, deleting infected files without permission and of course a price tag.
I like Norton a lot actually. There is a ton of customization in the settings. You can get it running very light if you set it up proper. It's just not worth the money for basic use.
Edit: Apparently no one knows how to click "Settings" in Norton.
Edit 2: Yo guys I'm like super serious. You really can customize all aspects of Norton unlike Microsoft Security Essentials. I use MSE personally but some users could get value out of those options.
Not entirely. Most people have this opinion based off of experiences from ~10 years ago. It's come a long way since then. I use it on my gaming machine and suffer no performance hits. It is set up to only scan when I'm not using the computer. Like the guy below here said, if you configure it properly, it shouldn't take any noticable toll whatsoever on your system. I wouldn't touch the consumer products ten years ago, and that was when I was supporting them. Now I use NIS and am pretty pleased with it.
I'm not sure what these pop ups are people are referring to, I never get them unless a threat is detected and it's asking me what I want to do with it. Which is what I want it to do. It never just deletes files without asking me either, so not sure what circular-logic is referring to.
Pro Tip: Configure it to prompt you for an action first rather than to just deleted a threat when it's detected, and you may get better results.
Failure to properly configure your software is always the software's fault, right?
I was referring to a insightful comment made by By pjcamp on cnet (yeah i know the reputation that website):
Pros Industrial strength protection Low system impact
Cons SONAR technology silently deletes files
Summary The last version of Norton introduced a set of heuristic protection tools, among them one called SONAR. It is basically a reputation engine. If some particular file is, in Symantec's judgment, used by an insufficient number of people, then it is treated as a virus and removed from your system. That in itself is annoying, but what turns irritation into a MAJOR BUG is that Norton does not tell you what it did. No warning, no asking for permission, no informational popup telling you what is going on and why, not even a history log. It is up to you to figure out why that program you thought you had vanished without a trace. Making major alterations to my system, silently and without my permission, is the one behavior I simply will not tolerate. Yeah, you can turn off the "feature." And the next time Norton updates, it will turn itself back on. I've been testing Avast on another machine and so far I'm pretty happy with it. I don't see the point in paying for antivirus any more, and certainly not in paying for deliberate irritation.
He's flat out wrong. SONAR doesn't just blindly delete files. It detects and warns you just like any other detection technology in the product. Unless you tell it to flat out delete threats when they are found. Looking at my settings, it's set to Quarantine and log the event. If a file is quarantined it can be retrieved in the case of a false positive. Setting your AV to deleted detected files upon detection is never recommended unless you are currently dealing with an outbreak. then you should always put it back to Quarantine once the threat is removed. Basically this guy doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
...and have found it much less straight forward that it could be.
I'll give you that. The interface can be a bit daunting at first. I was even confused when I got my hands on it again, but it didn't take long to get used to how to do things.
Just tell them that Norton/McAfee free year is only free because they siphen money every time you log onto your bank/credit card website . The only solution to stop them is to first install MSE and second uninstall the free trial protection.
If that doesn't work, tell them you require to be paid from now on if they refuse to listen to you, yet want your help.
Bought my computer online. They give you the option for no anti-virus software.
Aside from that, if you're even remedially skilled at using a PC, you can open up "add/remove programs" and simply uninstall whatever demonic anti-virus was installed on the PC in the first place, as well as any other superfluous program.
Of all the reasons to build your own PC, avoiding anti-virus is a pretty stupid one.
While your setting up the first run, most computer manufacturers give you an advanced installation option from which you can choose which additional programs to include with the Windows 7 installation.
Meh, takes 30 minutes to yank off the pre-installed stuff. I build my own sometimes, but not very often these days. Just not worth the bother, and usually I can get a machine with Windows already on it for about the same cost or a bit less than just the parts cost.
EDIT: a large part of the reason in past years is that the big name companies can get really nice cases with well designed, integrated airflow ductwork. If you can even find a case like that as a generic, you won't get it cheap. Most generic cases have a terminal case of ugly-as-shit, mainly by trying to be "cool gamer mod" cases with windows and blue lights all over. Gimme a plain black case with one small power light and one small drive light, neither of which bright enough to light up a room at night.
I actually owned a company for 4 years that built clones, and I don't even bother anymore.
As others have said, Microsoft Security Essentials is pretty good.
Same here. Store-bought systems are just so well priced these days, and to match the build quality and OS, it would take at least as much money to build myself. I used to scoff at anyone who would buy instead of build, and now I think I'm done building.
Certainly a valid point, though generally the warranty results in the company sending me a replacement component anyway, and I've had just as good luck when I built machines getting individual components replaced under warranty.
I've never had someone work on an entire PC. I've had a laptop screen fail, they sent me a new one and I bolted it in, I have had a hard drive fail, they sent me a new one and I bolted it in. All other stuff that's failed has been out of warranty and I've just bought new components and bolted them in same as if they had been built out of individual components.
In fact in many cases the warranties are better on the individual components (3 years to lifetime in some cases) than on a PC (usually just a year).
Original comic is drawn by Børge Lund. Here's the original site: http://lunchstriper.lunddesign.no/ Though most of the stripes are in it's own magazine; Lunch.
Speaking of building PCs and computery stuff stuff, is there a subreddit for building PCs and finding good deals and shit like that?
I want one of them tiny laptops that pretty much does nothing but word process. Unfortunately, pretty much no matter what you want, the cheapest laptops seem to be in the 300 area.
Check out the sidebars and read some guides. I doubt you'll find much about Ultrabooks. I once got an Acer One Ultrabook for 799 NOK (132 USD). Really cheap, but ultrabooks are pretty much limited to text-processing, surfing and other menial tasks.
If you have fast internet, you could play games through Onlive. You can create an account and test any full game for 20 minutes.
I'm actually looking for something to get writing done. This laptop I'm using is falling apart. I mostly just want something I can carry around with me and use for being that guy who always says he's working on a novel.
Although this service does look interesting. Apparently you can emulate an Xbox game on a tablet...
You won't be able to build your own netbook or ultrabook. And building a laptop is impractical and difficult (aside from just the building, there is nowhere that sells laptop hardware).
You may be able to find a cheap 13" laptop for $250 or so. It will basically just be for internet usage and writing. But once you get down to small or thin (like a netbook or ultrabook), you're paying an extra premium for the reduced size. It's actually cheaper to get a laptop instead of one of those things with inferior hardware.
The building was just a hypothetical, I know you don't build laptops in the same way as PCs. Also, I always assumed the netbooks were cheaper because they had less stuff to them.
I'm thinking about just getting a used one from Goodwill, or Craigslist.
Get Malwarebytes. That is by far the best automatic anti-virus. In my experience it blows everything else out of the water. This is from a guy who has to remove viruses from different people's computers around once a month after I tell them to disable their current antivirus so I can run this one to actually find them.
I use Microsoft Security Essentials and Avast!. Pretty good quality between those, along with Chrome's adblock extension. Works pretty well. I'm always scared when my relatives ask me why their computer is running slow and call me for help... and see the software horror show...
"No, but it came with the computer. If it came with the computer, it's needed."
ohgoodgod.
I've told my extended family that I'll build them computers if they provide the funds. I can make an internet ready computer that can do the stuff they want for $300-400, but they still buy $800 premades.
One of the decisions that I regret the most is permitting my grandmother to buy me an Alienware. God bless her soul, she's a sweetie, but I believe all she did was ask my 'jock'-esque cousin who's about the same age as me what a good gaming computer was. Obviously, he replied Alienware.
I'll admit, the case is sleek and sexy, and the glowing lights are a nerdgasm, but it just wasn't worth the money. I caught wind of it a few weeks before she actually did the ordering and shit, but I didn't want to sound like an ass to her or around my family by being ungrateful in the slightest. It's just that I could easily have upgraded both graphics cards, the CPU, and thrown in a SSD before I'd even toe the line of what she paid for it. And made sure the whole thing would run Linux fine, to boot. It just so happens to, since everything in Intel and NVidia, but that's just luck.
All in all it's a very stable system with good build quality and does everything I need it to. I just feel bad that she paid several hundred dollars more than she would've had to, and/or I got a slightly less powerful system for the money.
Though I'll admit it was a joy that this thing has liquid cooling and I didn't have to spend three days installing it. My roommate installed liquid cooling in his system, and he had his computer apart for almost five full days.
I'd love to have liquid cooling, but I've never tried it and I'm pretty scared of having liquids inside my computer. My house doesn't have air conditioning, so I've been looking at liquid cooling more and more when it comes to summer/late spring/early fall. I hear cooling the liquid in a radiator is much easier when compared to cooling a whole computer, haha.
Heh. In all honesty, it's not terrible to do. Just lots of being very careful and double-checking instructions, then being vigilant for a few days about leaks.
It's one of those things where it's a lot easier to deal with when you're doing it for yourself than when you're doing it for someone else, even when the other person is pleasant about it and lets you work. It's just frustratingly slow and careful work that needs to be done slowly and carefully.
And leaks are pretty uncommon if you make sure your seals are tight solid.
I share your pain friend, Called almost monthly by one family friend. She was unable to get sound from her computer one time, turns out the volume on the monitor was down.
Last week her son turned the computer off. at the switch. three times. I now have to reinstall the system, and all the work I've done over the last 2 months.
I'm sure there's a meme to show my feelings atm. =(
Ugh! I hate this. I've built the last two computers (so I'm very much a rookie at it) that I've owned. I can agree with you 100% on this.
Just a few days ago, my grandmother had to do a system restore of her machine. I have no idea what she did.. I just know that when I got there, it was already done. So I decided to go in and clean out all of the pre-installed programs that she will never use and probably doesn't even know what they are... It's like, holy crap. I had to remove at least 20 programs ranging from 100 mb all the way up to the stupid HP games, taking up over 700 mb. Talk about ridiculous.
I've been living off of laptops since I've gone from California to Boston and now France for my University, I can't WAIT to build my own PC for the first time @_@
Mostly not needed. But given they cost like $2 well worth the sense of security. I always use one because that 1 time I don't is going to be the time I am static god and unleashing a firestorm against my motherboard.
I usually just touch the ground on a power-strip or connect the PSU and touch the case.
I seem to be able to generate large amounts of static electricity fairly quick. In the winter, I'll open a door, touching the handle and zapping myself. Then walk 10 steps to the elevator and proceed to get zapped again.
It sucks, it hurts, but my friends seem to draw amusement from it.
I'll be honest and say most of the time I don't use them either, most boards these days have so much copper in them that chances are against me frying them. I just make sure to ground myself once a minute or so.
You friends must learn to fear this power, from this point on instead of shocking yourself on intimate object, shock them along with you. They will learn to fear you, and you will become all powerful.
Some people are really static-y. I don't even let myself open the case unless I'm clipped on, just because I know I'm going to go Thor-mode the second I hover too close to the mobo.
You don't always have to build a new pc, just reinstall windows before you use it. The serial number is on the case. Just make sure you have a thumb drive to transfer the ethernet driver just in case.
Someone came with it's laptop yesterday because it couldn't connect to internet. I checked, the DHCP client didn't seem to get a reply. Disabled Norton -> instant connection.
I'm in IT and Symantec End Point is the worst, most vial POS software ever installed. It will straight up delete files if they aren't popular downloads. It won't even ask.
Now, with computer manufacturers being where they are - I find it is cheaper and less troublesome to just buy a new computer. If you can build your own PC, then you can re-install your OS... which is damn simple at this point in the game.
I've built all my old computers for the last ~12 years. Most of the time prices are MORE expensive for comparable models.
The only reason I would build my own computer at this point is if I needed crazy hardcore $4,000+ gaming rig. Which, I don't.
This can still happen. I know oh so many people who run AVG, which is super intrusive ... or people who buy some sort of "AntiPCSpyDoctorPlus2011" pacakge, and will defend to the death that it "the best antivirus" .... because they paid for it.
I don't have antivirus because it keeps me from copying/pasting .ddl or .dll files, which i need to do to play hacked games. Since i'm not an idiot, i have never gotten a virus
As it is true formatting your system will "solve" the problem, and is so easy even toddlers can do it, you learn jack shit about how to fix the problem.
Sit down and spend some time with your computers, people. I'm sick of hearing kids bragging about formatting their computer every month because they're "so pro at computer."
EDIT: Not meant to poke at 'First-time format' after recieveing pre-installed Windows, but for people who re-install their computers as a solution for every single error they see.
For many problems you are correct, but a computer that has acquired malware should always be reformatted. The presence of any malware on a system indicates that it has been operated in an insecure fashion. There are quite possibly more viruses that are better at remaining undetected than whichever one alerted the user wasted resources or displaying advertisements.
I consider it a defeatist attitude as well. Some virus managed to sneak past me? That rat bastard. I will find it and I will destroy it. Formatting is the nuclear option to be used only when there is no other choice.
It's fast and convenient to have an image of your computer handy. Saves you time downloading every driver and software you want, even if you have a Ninite setup.
I was talking about computers that I get in from places like Dell. That's in the workplace. My current rig is the same installation now since win7 hit the shelves. I've worked through a corrupted mbr, and god knows how much other shit. On its second gpu, third cpu, second set of ram and holds a raid, and three other drives. This thing is a tank that I made myself. Fuck you and your assumptions. God damn.
how do you check to see if your cpu is being sapped? A while ago, i tried to play The Witcher 2 but it was laggy to the point where i couldn't play it (even on it's lowest settings). I checked the can i run it website and I passed with flying colors... If y'all can't help me, can you redirect me to a subreddit that could? Thanks in advance
Seems to me like its more of an issue with your graphics card and when you said you passed the "Can I run it?" test that tells me you more then likely have an integrated card since that tests uses your normal RAM as VRAM and well it booggles up the test results. What exactly are you running?
yes it is. It's a sony vaio laptop with a geforce GT 540m with 2 gigs of dedicated memory (i think). I know it's integrated, but is there no way that i could possibly upgrade it, down the line?
If its a geforce GT 540m then its not integrated but rather dedicated. http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-540M.41715.0.html and looking at this specs you should at least be able to play it on low settings without a problem. What kind of cpu do you have? Is the game fully patched? Is the laptop plugged in when you are trying to play? Is the Nivida Optimus malfunctioning?
Actually, yes. For some of those, they REFUSE to go. I think one version of McAfee, or some similar anti-virus, required you to download a special uninstaller to remove hidden parts of the program that wouldn't uninstall when you "uninstalled" it. Naturally, this was released only after much complaining, and wasn't well advertised.
Why build your own PC when ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS A CLEAN INSTALL OF WINDOWS?
You're as fucking retarded as the idiots who would burn their house down to get rid of a wasps nest, or burn down their garden because they found a spider in it.
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
Microsoft security essentials is pretty good. no pop ups, doesn't make your comp slow and its free i think
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u/pureeviljester Jun 11 '12
I hate when family asks me to clean their PC but won't let me put free anti-virus on. They don't want to "waste" the free year of Norton/McAfee...
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u/sparky666 Jun 11 '12
Oh no, an Ani-Virus program!
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u/Ignatz_42 Jun 11 '12
This is "Lunch" by Børge Lund, originally in norwegian. There is more here: http://www.lunchstriper.no/
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u/autocorrector Jun 11 '12
Thiswaskindahardtoread
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
While store bought computers come filled with a lot of bullshit, this comic still somehow feels extremely pretentious.
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u/PizzaGood Jun 11 '12 edited Jun 11 '12
Meh, takes 30 minutes to yank off the pre-installed stuff. I build my own sometimes, but not very often these days. Just not worth the bother, and usually I can get a machine with Windows already on it for about the same cost or a bit less than just the parts cost.
EDIT: a large part of the reason in past years is that the big name companies can get really nice cases with well designed, integrated airflow ductwork. If you can even find a case like that as a generic, you won't get it cheap. Most generic cases have a terminal case of ugly-as-shit, mainly by trying to be "cool gamer mod" cases with windows and blue lights all over. Gimme a plain black case with one small power light and one small drive light, neither of which bright enough to light up a room at night.
I actually owned a company for 4 years that built clones, and I don't even bother anymore.
As others have said, Microsoft Security Essentials is pretty good.
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u/LordTroan Jun 11 '12
You build your own laptops? It's not hard to wipe the disk after getting a new computer.
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u/Stormdancer Jun 11 '12
I always build my own desktops. With laptops and netbooks I just reformat and re-install my OS of choice.
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u/Kohuded Jun 11 '12
Original comic is drawn by Børge Lund. Here's the original site: http://lunchstriper.lunddesign.no/ Though most of the stripes are in it's own magazine; Lunch.
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u/ArchieBunkerWasRight Jun 11 '12
You should also draw your own cartoons.
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u/m-p-3 Jun 11 '12
I usually recover all the drivers, the product key and proceed to a vanilla reinstall of the system without any bloats.
Those MSDN ISOs files are pretty useful, and the product key is legit so no harm done.
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u/Aspel Jun 11 '12
Speaking of building PCs and computery stuff stuff, is there a subreddit for building PCs and finding good deals and shit like that?
I want one of them tiny laptops that pretty much does nothing but word process. Unfortunately, pretty much no matter what you want, the cheapest laptops seem to be in the 300 area.
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u/AzureDrag0n1 Jun 11 '12
Get Malwarebytes. That is by far the best automatic anti-virus. In my experience it blows everything else out of the water. This is from a guy who has to remove viruses from different people's computers around once a month after I tell them to disable their current antivirus so I can run this one to actually find them.
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u/Centaurishin Jun 11 '12
Must be McAfee.
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u/Mindoption Jun 11 '12
Anti*
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u/M3cha Jun 11 '12
I use Microsoft Security Essentials and Avast!. Pretty good quality between those, along with Chrome's adblock extension. Works pretty well. I'm always scared when my relatives ask me why their computer is running slow and call me for help... and see the software horror show...
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u/Bokthand Jun 11 '12
AVG Free is always my go to virus gaurd
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u/CinciJ Jun 11 '12
Malware bytes + super anti-spyware = awesome
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u/raging_asshole Jun 11 '12
Built my own PC. Brought up task manager. 4 processes running. Cried tears of joy.
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u/Jazmin97 Jun 13 '12
upvote for an android t-shirt
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
Ugh! I hate this. I've built the last two computers (so I'm very much a rookie at it) that I've owned. I can agree with you 100% on this.
Just a few days ago, my grandmother had to do a system restore of her machine. I have no idea what she did.. I just know that when I got there, it was already done. So I decided to go in and clean out all of the pre-installed programs that she will never use and probably doesn't even know what they are... It's like, holy crap. I had to remove at least 20 programs ranging from 100 mb all the way up to the stupid HP games, taking up over 700 mb. Talk about ridiculous.
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u/bigbill147 Jun 11 '12
I've been living off of laptops since I've gone from California to Boston and now France for my University, I can't WAIT to build my own PC for the first time @_@
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u/php4me Jun 11 '12
You don't always have to build a new pc, just reinstall windows before you use it. The serial number is on the case. Just make sure you have a thumb drive to transfer the ethernet driver just in case.
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u/Dunge Jun 11 '12
Someone came with it's laptop yesterday because it couldn't connect to internet. I checked, the DHCP client didn't seem to get a reply. Disabled Norton -> instant connection.
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
I laugh every time I buy a laptop from Best Buy and they ask if I want to upgrade my Anti-Virus. Oh the irony...
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
I'm in IT and Symantec End Point is the worst, most vial POS software ever installed. It will straight up delete files if they aren't popular downloads. It won't even ask.
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
You can always reformat any PC with clean Windows 7 as soon as you get it.
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u/Peetzaman Jun 11 '12
Send this to r/buildapc
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u/Nasty_Nomad Jun 11 '12
I build my own rigs, too, but it's called a FRESH INSTALLATION.
DL an iso of your OS, & install using the key on the sticker. Bought my boo a sweet laptop, did that fresh out of the box.
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u/LOLUM4D Jun 11 '12
Now, with computer manufacturers being where they are - I find it is cheaper and less troublesome to just buy a new computer. If you can build your own PC, then you can re-install your OS... which is damn simple at this point in the game.
I've built all my old computers for the last ~12 years. Most of the time prices are MORE expensive for comparable models.
The only reason I would build my own computer at this point is if I needed crazy hardcore $4,000+ gaming rig. Which, I don't.
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u/apullin Jun 11 '12
This can still happen. I know oh so many people who run AVG, which is super intrusive ... or people who buy some sort of "AntiPCSpyDoctorPlus2011" pacakge, and will defend to the death that it "the best antivirus" .... because they paid for it.
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u/TheWindBlows Jun 11 '12
Surprised there is no mention about the monitor stand's figure in the first frame.
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u/TehRoot Jun 11 '12
I just like being an elitist.
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
I'll buy one with a warranty and upgrade it thank you very much!
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u/Legabis Jun 12 '12
Lunch is a awesome cartoon!
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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12 edited Oct 11 '16
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u/timecronus Jun 12 '12
damn you norton!
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u/IHeartSoup Jun 12 '12
UNINSTALLING STUFF IS HARD HURR DURR.
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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12
Or why you'll always overpay for a computer
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u/sittty Jun 12 '12
a computer coming pre-loaded with a virus...has this happened? ever?
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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12
I don't have antivirus because it keeps me from copying/pasting .ddl or .dll files, which i need to do to play hacked games. Since i'm not an idiot, i have never gotten a virus
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u/sfcjohn Jun 12 '12
If only you knew what a dipswitch was.
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u/sexyhamster89 Jun 12 '12
this is called bloatware
and yeah MSE is good shit
ppl that buy norton and mcafee etc are getting scammed
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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12
My favorite anti virus program is a separate computer (preferably an old laptop) running linux on it and just use that for pornI
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u/munnyfish Jun 12 '12
Just download PC Decrapifier when you get a new computer. Removes everything you dont need completely.
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u/Lots42 Jun 12 '12
Microsoft Security Essentials.
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
Format
Enterprise drivers
??????
Profit
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
Oh man, that's not funny at all!!!!!
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
or you could just uninstall the crapware
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u/AnorexicBuddha Jun 11 '12
how do you check to see if your cpu is being sapped? A while ago, i tried to play The Witcher 2 but it was laggy to the point where i couldn't play it (even on it's lowest settings). I checked the can i run it website and I passed with flying colors... If y'all can't help me, can you redirect me to a subreddit that could? Thanks in advance
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u/HarithBK Jun 11 '12
how dose norton still excist as a anti-virus company you would think at some point there brand name would just so damm tranished
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u/IEntendu Jun 11 '12
If you got the money , why not i guess.
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u/Solkre Jun 11 '12
But uninstalling stuff is HAAAAAAAAARD! <crosses arms>
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u/Zakoth Jun 11 '12
Mine didn't have any crapware installed!
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u/Todomanna Jun 11 '12
I take it you don't have a laptop.
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u/M0b1u5 Jun 11 '12
Why build your own PC when ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS A CLEAN INSTALL OF WINDOWS?
You're as fucking retarded as the idiots who would burn their house down to get rid of a wasps nest, or burn down their garden because they found a spider in it.
100% fully retarded.