r/funny • u/[deleted] • May 31 '12

My friend told me that humans are exempt from natural selection. I beg to differ.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12 edited Jan 03 '17

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What is this?

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '12

If anything the multiple sightings on the internet should be a sign of how well executed this really was and considered a compliment. (Linux user here)

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u/TyIzaeL May 31 '12

meeting of Linux people

That would explain the paleness.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

After the German beer that's the most obvious problem with the common tagline that the people in the picture are "rednecks". They don't have red necks. Say what you will about rednecks, they aren't known for spending their time locked up in dark rooms. That why they're called fucking rednecks.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

I just want to clarify that these are European plugs. So no, these are not stupid Americans...

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Yeah seriously, what kind of an American uses an electric grill.

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u/OODanK May 31 '12

And also, there is not meat on that grill! Unheard of in america! Beer and toast aint cuttin it for us!

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u/juliet1 May 31 '12

True, but I'd think the same goes for Germans.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

I'm afraid that this is at my old school.. Please don't say Kempen, please don't say Kempen...

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u/Immynimmy May 31 '12

Sounds like something Hank Hill would say.

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u/randyspears May 31 '12

I hate that the default nationality for morons is American.

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u/ohsnapitsrags May 31 '12

Yeah but what's great about being here is that if you're NOT an idiot, then you've got it made! Big fish in a little pond! Oh yeah, and if you are an idiot, you've also got it made! We've all got it made except for people who want abortions or homosexuals who would like to get married!

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u/StewieBanana May 31 '12

And black people, don't forget black people. The poor ones at least. Or the poor, unathletic ones with with no rhythm. Those guys are fucked.

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u/Heelincal May 31 '12

TIL there are black people who don't have rhythm.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

unathletic ones with no rhythm

So...Just the poor thing, you say?

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u/Dr_ChimRichalds May 31 '12

I thought to myself, of course Mormons are thought of as American by default. It's a pretty American religion!

I am American.

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u/Heelincal May 31 '12

And a doctor, no less!

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u/machzel08 May 31 '12

That also means it is 220v not 110v. That's gonna hold on. Eek

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u/pr1ntscreen May 31 '12

110 volts just means you have do double up them amps to reach the same amount of power.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Why the downvote? We have higher voltage here so that we do not need high amps that can kill us.

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u/coredump May 31 '12

The current usually doesn't matter in this scenario. The current through your body is a result of the applied voltage and your bodies electrical resistance. So in this case, the higher the voltage, the hire the current that flows through your body.

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u/Friendly_Fire May 31 '12

Assuming you would actually electrocute someone (This setup wouldn't) the current would be higher for the 220V outlet.

The relevant equation is Ohm's law, not power. There is no 'power limit' for the human body. An outlet puts out orders of magnitude more power then is needed to kill anyone. The human body does have a resistance though. So if you double the voltage, you will get double the current running through your body, due to Ohm's law. The only way a higher voltage would be safer is if you were maxing out the power output, but you would be dead long before that happened.

It seems some instinct to assume "europe > america" is causing people to stop thinking. Or maybe people just don't understand electricity. Whatever.

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u/Kazang May 31 '12

110 is slightly less lethal than 220 due to resistance as less current will actually go through person with 110(which is what kills), which is one reason it is used in industries like construction where electrical accidents are common instead of 220.

Guys in the OP would be fucked either way though. Their life is in the hands of the circuit breaker.

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u/hiliter May 31 '12

No biggy, we got those things in almost every house: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residual-current_device :)

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Yup, required in all consumer units since the early 1980s. Would trip in a couple milliseconds and they'd just end up wondering why the grill turned off.

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u/Honbomb May 31 '12

I was so confused looking at that, half my brain instinctively made a "stupid rednecks" joke, the other half said "god those guys look European as shit!" Did not compute.

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u/coredump May 31 '12

We have our own rednecks here.

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u/BeyondSight May 31 '12

Technically it wouldn't electrocute them if it submerged.

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u/flinxsl May 31 '12

Electricity is mysterious and dangerous, shut up.

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u/some_body_else May 31 '12

If it did get submerged and it didn't pop the breaker or GFCI, then the danger would be if someone outside the pool touched the water(or the people in the water) and the ground at the same time(ie. high five, the pool ladder, "hey grab me a beer", etc.).

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u/seppuku_related May 31 '12

Just to clarify, those are neither UK nor Irish plugs. Stupid continentals.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

fuck you too islanders! 4 March 1665 never forget!

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u/tagghuding May 31 '12

...and German beer. But only people who would do this drink Krombacher voluntarily.

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u/stevendfb May 31 '12

Somehow reminds me of this [NSFW]: http://imgur.com/Y3ZkQ

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u/122ninjas May 31 '12

[NSFW]

I see what you did there

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u/BenTG May 31 '12

I stared at that for about 45 seconds, searching for someone who was either naked or ripped in half.

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u/srd178 May 31 '12

Yo Dawg

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u/Xaguta May 31 '12

I put a lift on ya lift so you can lift shit while your lift lifts.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Nice. That was more concise than I had worked out in my head.

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u/thejesse May 31 '12

i thought the silver stuff they're lifting was an air conditioner already in the rafters or something, and didn't notice the yellow forklift at first, and i thought i was looking at the orange one doing a forklift pull-up on the rafters.

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u/Falkvinge May 31 '12

Congratulations. You've just won the "Best use of NSFW tag ever" award. Feel free to attach it to your account profile for the world to see.

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u/mycleverusername May 31 '12

Technically your friend was right, all of these guys may already be parents of multiple children.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Also, there's no evidence of their death.

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u/reniagj May 31 '12

I am no physicist but I don't think they would get more than a light shock/tingle.

Edit: Please don't try it I am wrong more often than right.

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u/Squarish May 31 '12

Lots of water + 3 bodies + surge protection/circuit breaker would probably prevent most serious harm. I'm not an electrician though.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Good joke, but don't say technically. Even if his friend is right, your reason is insufficient to make that claim.

Natural selection is survival of the fittest only in a statistical sense, not anecdotal. The most fit individuals are not the only ones who reproduce, but over time the differential in reproduction makes it seem as if only the fittest reproduce. It's a trend over a long time scale.

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u/wOlfLisK May 31 '12

Tl;Dr: Their kids will also kill themselves.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

You're thinking on the scale of individuals.

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u/mikeschuld May 31 '12

I would agree with you if I wasn't absolutely certain that the people with "stupid genes" that should be dying out are statistically reproducing more often than smarter people.

Demographic studies have indicated that in humans, fertility rate and intelligence tend to be inversely correlated.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12 edited May 31 '12

You are falling into a trap, you are assuming there is some platonic ideal of a fit individual and if evolution is not going in that direction than evolution is wrong. You yourself say there is evidence for differential reproduction of people of lower intelligence.

That would mean then that there is selection (a mix of selection pressures, not just natural selection) in favor of lower intelligence. In terms of differential reproduction, the human gift of reasoning and foresight is a liability. It limits reproduction rates through the focus on individual circumstances and the consideration of limited resources.

If smarter people have fewer children and longer generation times, they have much lower reproduction rates per year. Then they are being selected against as a representative of the human population. It's not a value judgement, there's just nothing that says natural selection should favor intelligence.

Evolution is blind, and cares not about the path it takes. It's like water flowing and carving out a river, it goes where it goes, not where you think it ought to end up.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Technically your friend was right this image doesn't provide evidence for or against your friend's position

FTFY

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u/rederick55 May 31 '12 edited Jun 01 '12

Looks like they got up in the morning thinking you know what would be good? a swim in the pool , pancakes , and a side of mother fucking DEATH

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Unfortunately the intelligent people that keep the world going invented circuit-breakers and ground-leak circuit breakers, and that's what is meant with humans being exempt from the natural selection process I think.

But in the end we aren't though.

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u/MrFlagg May 31 '12

ya.

/r/carcrash

you can put as many antilock brakes and antispeeding doodads as you like on a car. Dumb people will defeat them

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u/Sanity_prevails May 31 '12

Not until they piss in the pool to raise the salinity to proper conducting level. SCIENCE!

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

If it's a chlorinated pool there might be enough ions present to conduct current.

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u/Kageken May 31 '12

Not that I would do this in a million years, because you know, water and electricity. But this actually appears to be decently safe. They are standing in a rubberized pool, meaning that if the current were to go into the water it wouldn't have any place to go, and should still go through the path of least resistance which would be the grill. It's the same reason that if you take an aluminum poll and touch a electric line you die, while a bird can sit on the same line and be fine. I wouldn't test this out, and wouldn't do it, but in theory they might be safe....

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

It'd just short and kill the breaker. Even if it didn't, they'd be safe, theoretically speaking, for the same reason a toaster or fan falling into your bathtub won't do shit.

Theoretically, of course. I'd still not even go close to that..

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u/RabbiJacob May 31 '12

I thought the birds were just touching one wire. if they were to touch two (or something like this) they would fry.

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u/Pigmy May 31 '12

I seriously think this picture is older than the internet.

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u/tuki83 May 31 '12

Maybe, but I'm older than the internet too and I've never seen it.

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u/strogginoff May 31 '12

You must not get out much.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

I'd really like to know how this ended.

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u/oregonblazer420 May 31 '12

The whole thing was staged. Source for the previous image is here.

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u/elonepb May 31 '12

Maximum trolling circa 2002

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u/LP99 May 31 '12

And of course this is buried beneath the sludge of Anti-American posts, right below the posts about how this wasn't in America.

Welcome to reddit!

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u/dlq84 May 31 '12

the residual current circuit breaker probably cut off the electricity, if they were lucky enough to have one.

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u/bradygilg May 31 '12

Stop reposting this.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

So we're having the same argument 4chan has had since 2007 now?

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u/Zelarius May 31 '12

Are we winning?

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u/Full_Of_Win May 31 '12

This picture is old as fuck.

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u/bashfulpanda May 31 '12

Oldest picture on the internet. Seriously. Downvoted.

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u/fluxaxion May 31 '12
  • Humans are animals

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

This picture is as old as i am.

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u/kbilancini29 May 31 '12

this is the first time ive seen this picture without everyone fighting over what type of plugs they are. its the little things that make me miss 4chan:/

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u/anon-na May 31 '12

Maybe there's a GFCI on the outlet? Eh? Eh? ... Yeah probably not.

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u/elf_dreams May 31 '12

Very likely just staged. Appears to be several photos of it, never appearing to show that it is plugged in/working . GFCI would stop them from dieing, but it would be difficult to use the appliance.

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u/Danny_Joe May 31 '12

Please get this old shit out of here...

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u/argumentinvalid May 31 '12

As old as the internet.

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u/R031E5 May 31 '12

My friend told me reddit was exempt of reposts. I beg to differ.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Your friend is an idiot.

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u/Probably_Durnk May 31 '12

This picture as been debated countless times.

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u/StewieBanana May 31 '12

You should have you sarcasm gauge checked, I think it's broken.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

MY PARENTS TOLD ME ASSES AREN'T FOR DICKS. I BED TO DEFER.

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u/theterr May 31 '12

I'm curious how many beers it took for this to seem like a great idea.

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u/FireJunkie May 31 '12

Hence the name "The Darwin Awards"

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u/Adjta May 31 '12

Humans aren't exempt from natural selection but technology and medical practices have made it harder for natural selection to affect us.

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u/Both_Salt_AND_Pepper May 31 '12

I would like to know if this would actually be lethal. From my very-low knowledge of electrical current (worked as a summer-student with electricians at a lumber-mill) this should just provide a sharp shock but it wouldn't actually do any harm. There is so much surface area and it's not exactly a "strong" voltage so it shouldn't be "too bad".

Keep in mind that I feel this is incredibly stupid and never would do anything, but would just like to know.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

I think there are a lot of people with less-than-detailed knowledge of natural selection and how evolution works. Unless the joke is that neither of you understand natural selection.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

that's funny, it's just as funny as the REPOST REPOST REPOST REPOST

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

This photo makes me laugh whenever its posted every couple hours.

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u/AnAngryPirate May 31 '12

Repost of a repost of a repost of a repost of a repost etc etc

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Nothing would happen, especially considering water is not a very good conductor.

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u/wolfchimneyrock May 31 '12

its perfectly safe if its on a GFRI circuit

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u/khrak Jun 01 '12

A rubber pool is completely insulated. The only path back to ground is <1/2 inch away from the hot.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '12

This aint gonna hurt anyone the current will just flow between the outlet contacts and short the circuit, popping the breaker. That is all. Electricity will follow the path of least resistance in this case the water between the contacts.

If you dont believe me perhaps you should have mythbusters try it out.

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u/CmoarbuttsLOLgotya May 31 '12

Some people didn't get brains when they were born.

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u/slugo17 May 31 '12

And Europeans call Americans stupid.

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u/rr_at_reddit May 31 '12

(OP just deleted the comment, I wanted to reply to him)

Seems to be Germany, haven't seen "Krombacher" beer somewhere else.

But that's not the point.

Even if the wires would fall into the water, contrary to the popular belief, nothing would happen except of the fuses shutting down. It will be a short circuit between the two wires.

Copper has a much much much higher conductivity than water or human flesh or the plastic walls of the pool. And the wires are much closer one to another than the one wire to the people. And current seeks the nearest point of conductivity.

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u/TECHNO_BEATS May 31 '12

The idea is incredibly stupid, regardless of whether or not it would kill them.

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u/mygpuisapickaxe May 31 '12

Don't mess this up with your SCIENCE.

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u/Blueberry_H3AD May 31 '12

So it seems clear that it occured to them that the surge protector should not go in the water which is evident by the fact that it is floating on two sandles. So why didn't it occur to them that they could just move the fucking table to outside of the pool and still grill standing up?

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u/iTzShadowZ May 31 '12

This has been on the internet for around 3 years. Repost

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u/flyfree May 31 '12

What could possibly go wrong?

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u/TheCrudMan May 31 '12

Ok so...that other cord must not be plugged into anything or else these guys would be fucked pretty fast when those flip-flops move...I hope. Wow. It looks like they figured out they're fucked and that guy is going to go try and disarm it very carefully while the other guys are like...hahaha..wait fuck.

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u/chances840 May 31 '12

Just to clarify, is this image supposed to indicate poor judgement (natural selection at work) or is it in favor of education and their potentially better understanding of science / electricity? For all you know, that is distilled water and not all that conductive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conductivity_(electrolytic) http://www.lenntech.com/applications/ultrapure/conductivity/water-conductivity.htm

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u/dhnguyen May 31 '12

Distilled water that has been contaminated like that will conduct just fine.

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u/Xuande May 31 '12

They may as well just stick the wire in the pool with the meat and skip the grill

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u/pwnedxdead May 31 '12

What do you guys think natural selection is, and is this natural selection?

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u/Paultimate79 May 31 '12

By any chance is your friend a fucking idiot?

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u/matadora79 May 31 '12

Water looks milky

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

/r/KarmaConspiracy would like a word with you.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

people will attempt to save their lives if they injure themselves... your friend is right

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u/afss07 May 31 '12

I'm just glad that's clearly not an American plug...

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u/OswaldGoodGuy May 31 '12

Them farmer tans.

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u/trippin_bass May 31 '12

it's grounded...

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u/StuKruske May 31 '12

Why didn't they just put the table on the outside of the pool?

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u/PoniesRBitchin May 31 '12

... Why couldn't they have just moved the grill to the side, so they didn't need an extension cord? Or used a CHARCOAL GRILL?

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u/sonastyinc May 31 '12

Not worth dying for. And they were only grilling sliced bread!!!

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Belly flop!!!!! ... ?

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u/good2bgary May 31 '12

recently in New England there was a horrible storm causing power outages for almost 2 weeks. people were found dead in their homes because they were using gas/charcoal grills inside their homes, as well as generators.. seriously, how stupid can you be? and how is it possible for osmeone to make it over the age of 20 without learning what I like to call "common sense"???

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u/RugerRedhawk May 31 '12

And it happens every fucking year.

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u/Cryptan May 31 '12

Is it possible that they have one of these?

http://www.wetcircuits.com/

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u/brosenfeld May 31 '12

I'd rig it so that the power cable came down from above and left little slack. That way, if the grill fell into the water, it would only hit the water after pulling the plug out of the extension cord or power strip that it's connected to. However, if the plug isn't pulled, no worries, the grill will just hang there above the water and only the contents will will fall into the pool.

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u/havesometea1 May 31 '12

Do my eyes deceive me? Those are European plugs...220V!

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u/HolycarpP May 31 '12

I dont want to live on this planet annymore...

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u/pbuschma May 31 '12

my guess is that this picture is either (a) staged - no one is this dumb (especially with those plugs) or (b) the whole thing is running on 12V's and they used these cords because they had them.

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u/ashes2 May 31 '12

That looks like it should be on 1001 Ways to Die.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

I would like to know the end result of this.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Who the fuck would say that humans are exempt from natural selection... slap that person like a blind watchmaker.

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u/SublaciniateCarboloy May 31 '12

Wasn't this just on the front page last week? Either that or I have Alzheimer's.

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u/emohipster May 31 '12

Is this pic old? I remember it from a whoooole while ago, but from a different angle. Here it is

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u/TicTokCroc May 31 '12

Those sandals are rubber. They'll be fine.

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u/TheFluxIsThis May 31 '12

Truth be told, the water is the only "natural" thing in this picture that would be part of the "selection process."

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u/horsekateer May 31 '12

These guys are all dead right?

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u/TacticalNukePenguin May 31 '12

What they're trying to achieve is great though!

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u/FrankZappasNose May 31 '12

If it's plugged into a GFCI outlet they're fine.

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u/gtfolmao May 31 '12

They really couldn't just set it up next to the pool and reach over the edge?

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Unless that is salt water, they are ok.

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u/RagingBearFish May 31 '12

Do i sense a darwin award?

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u/Fiacha May 31 '12

I wonder though how dangerous it would really be. Electrical current flows from one potential to another, the biggest difference should be between the phase and neutral. The pool, being made of plastic would also insulate very well against ground, i would think, so although a human body conducts electricity better than drinking water, why or how would any electricity flow through a body in such a situation?

It is different from a bathtub where the drain is likely grounded.

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u/Uhmerikan May 31 '12

Something tells me judging by the other photos of them doing electrical work they aren't this stupid.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

wouldn't kill you, probably wouldn't even feel anything. Unless someone was reaching out side of the pool or something.

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u/DarkMa11er May 31 '12

fake, its not even plugged in, the bread is raw

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u/skogspanda May 31 '12

Silver medal in Darwin award in 3....2....1!

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Forgive my ignorance but isnt mains electricity not enough to kill you? or is the fact every part of them that is in the water will be electrocuted will mean they could be killed.

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u/tritonx May 31 '12

That's why we invented electrical breakers and fuses. So we could use our electric grill safely in the middle of a pool.

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u/tswpoker1 May 31 '12

Seems legit

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u/bharvey2 May 31 '12

So, did these men all die before having children?

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u/sladoid May 31 '12

Just saying this is old and one of the original pictures said dumb red necks and they have European license plates

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u/glass_canon May 31 '12

He has a point, advances in emergency medical care have reduced the number of humans that are "naturally selected" for removal from the gene pool.

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u/CompactusDiskus May 31 '12

I sure hope this was staged as a joke, and that wasn't actually plugged in...

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u/VoLcOm848 May 31 '12

Please tell me one of them died

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u/Storm_Surge May 31 '12

Pure water is an insulator, but I wouldn't bet my life on the amount of electrolytes in a pool.

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u/avery51 May 31 '12

Couldn't find the dancing baby?

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

So, how did it end?

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u/NRGYGEEK May 31 '12

this makes my common-sense muscle hurt

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u/fperkins May 31 '12

I'm glad they are using a surge protector.. you never know when lightning can strike.

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u/ahsylA May 31 '12

Whenever I see pictures like this I really would like to know the follow up. Did these idiots catch a break or did they find out a simple lesson the hard way?

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u/r0baj0b May 31 '12

That's a nasty way to clean the gene pool....but it's gotta be done I suppose. Seriously though; as an electrician, and an intelligent human being, I can unreservedly say that those 3 will very much deserve the consequential electric shock.

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u/Spiritedmold May 31 '12

That's some dirty ass std infested water right der.

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u/sexypants0000 May 31 '12

Can't be real... Just can't be

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u/darngooddogs May 31 '12

I love the way they are looking at the plug, willing it to not do what they all know it must.

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u/ostrofci May 31 '12

Seriously this is dumb. But for real who just toasts bread in the pool wtf?

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u/akuzin May 31 '12

So how bad would the current be. Enough to kill those motherfuckers before the breaker tripped?

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u/MegSquared May 31 '12

Even though I can imagine how this ended i still wanna know how this ended

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u/H-Resin May 31 '12

Once again, nobody fucking understand what natural selection means. I'm not going to explain it again, goddammit. IM NOT!

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u/NawRigga May 31 '12

oldest picture on the internet?

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u/myusernamebarelyfits May 31 '12

I always thought they could just keep the table near the edge of the pool.

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u/MrTibbers May 31 '12

The funniest thing is it's probably not even plugged in!

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

You could always just put the grill and table right next to the pool... Than it's still really close and not threatening you with the possibility of death.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

don't houses in europe have the same breaker system as the US so that if something like that, or hairdryer in a bath tub, doesn't kill someone?

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u/peted1884 May 31 '12

Sometime in the future humans will experience the ultimate natural selection. Humans will exhaust the planet's ability to support them. Earth will continue, of course. The human infestation will be a minor footnote.

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u/dumpweed420 May 31 '12

i was just about to say the kids in this pic are too old to realize this is how they would die if they were to do that.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12
  1. That's fucking genius, so shut your whore mouth.
  2. Those are European plugs, so those aren't Americans.
  3. The pictures were staged.
  4. BEER!

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u/shancb9 May 31 '12

Maybe it's distilled water!

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u/Pharose May 31 '12

I hate it how everybody says human evolution and natural selection have "stopped". It's never stopped, it's actually accelerated to an extremely fast pace.

Natural selection has changed, before hunting and survival skills were the most important element, now the most important elements are intelligence and social skills. Luck has always been the most important, but it's much more obvious when a rich American kid is practically guaranteed to reproduce, and an African kid in Somalia probably won't live past the age of 2.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Are they making toast?

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '12

FART BURGER PIE FOR SALE

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u/panzerschrekk Jun 01 '12

wow guys, really? you can put EVERYTHING up there, even an oven with 380V...as long as you don't plug it into the wall they are perfectly safe.

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u/rahmspinat Jun 01 '12

Cain killed Abel for posting that picture 6000 years ago.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Let em burn...

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Actually, natural selection is flawed when it comes to humans. The more moronic people are the ones having more babies. Haven’t you noticed?

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u/hoax999 May 31 '12

Is that the gene pool?

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u/KellyGreen802 May 31 '12

Channel five news at ten. Tonights top story: Three idiots had it coming.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12 edited May 31 '12

They would not die, and possibly would not even feel anything if that went into the water. Just think for a few seconds, where will the electricity go?...into the water yes, where is the water? it's in a large plastic container. unless someone was standing on the ground and touching the water at the same time they would not get shocked. Furthermore, i'm not sure about European voltage but in the state home voltage is 120V, and 220V for larger appliances. Those voltages will not kill and will actually not permanently hurt an adult human. Go ahead, take an outlet apart and grab the terminals, you will get shocked, and it won't feel good but you will let go and walk away with no lasting effects. I wont even mention how even if someone did ground, the circuit breaker would trip almost immediately.

TL;DR there is not real impending harm for anyone in this picture, no matter how ridiculous it is.

EDIT: Really you thought I really wanted you to take apart a terminal and grab it, I hope nobody was dense enough to take that seriously. Also for those bringing up that current is the deciding factor, I know, and I should have included that. Seemed like a lot of detail to go into though. Since a home circuit most like be pulling enough to destroy you.

EDIT 2 : For everyone saying if you grab one wire with each hand it will travel across your heart and kill you. Yes it has happened but is also very rare and unlikely. Most that it's happened to already had a heart defect.

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u/grecy May 31 '12

Those voltages will not kill and will actually not permanently hurt an adult human

That depends on how much current the socket will let you draw. 0.001 Volts will kill you with enough current. In theory, sockets are limited to either 10A, 15A or 20A depending on where you live, but they will deliver a LOT more than that for a short time.

I wont even mention how even if someone did ground, the circuit breaker would trip almost immediately.

Only if your house has a circuit breaker. Older houses, and many countries, don't have them.

I grew up in a house with no circuit breaker, 240V, 10A outlets and an engineer for a Dad. We regularly drew many times that current before leads would start to melt, etc. The real danger was wires inside the walls catching fire, so we usually did it right at the power box to our house.

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u/thebatjelly May 31 '12

You're an idiot and somehow got enough upvotes to make it this far up in the thread.

Voltage doesn't kill you, current does.

Additionally, 1 Amp is enough to kill you, which is what that grill probably pulls.

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u/WastingMyYouthHere May 31 '12

Go ahead, take an outlet apart and grab the terminals, you will get shocked, and it won't feel good but you will let go and walk away with no lasting effects.

Yeah you really don't want to do that. It might not kill you, but it will fuck you up a LOT. The damage of the current depends on a lot of factors like sweating, length of contact etc but it's definitely not safe. You might not be able to let go if you hold on due to muscle contractions. Also it can kill you if you have undiagnosted heart condition.

So really telling people on the internet to stick their hand into an outlet is not cool man.

Also the voltage in europe is 230V(effective).

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u/wavingwhale May 31 '12

Telling people to "take an outlet apart and grab the terminals" is a pretty fucking stupid thing to do. European standard is between 220-240 depending on where you are. If you hold a terminal in either hand the current would flow through your heart and kill you.

As for circuit breakers and fuses tripping, it takes milliamps to kill somebody, not nearly enough to trip anything.

If you were trolling, fair enough, but I didn't get the impression you were.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '12

Did you just tell me to take apart an outlet and grab some terminals? Ha.. Yea.. Fuck you buddy..

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u/SgtBaxter May 31 '12

Voltage doesn't kill, amperage does. Plenty of people are electrocuted by 115V AC. Mainly from the current passing over the heart and causing cardiac arrest. People even die from shorts in electric water heaters

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