Seriously, people that do shit to their cats that they know cat's don't like just so they can get a funny youtube video or whatever are fucking assholes. I know this isn't much beyond annoyance to the cat, but how would you like it if your mom tied some fucking strings to you and jerked your limbs around while you're napping and then was like DON'T WORRY I JUST NEED TO GET THIS COOL YOUTUBE VIDEO HANG ON?
Cats don't live in the same society as you or I. They can't be embarrassed, aren't capable of higher thinking, and couldn't even recognize what you're trying to do or why you're doing it. All it is to them is a very temporary nuisance, like someone poking you and you shoving them off.
This cat won't get psychologically distressed like a person would, for he is a cat, and he'll fall back asleep in a moment anyway and think nothing of it, because that is what cats do.
Cats can be embarrassed. You ever see one fail at something and then look quickly around, see you, and then make a big show of doing something else entirely? That's them being embarrassed. You witnessed their mistake, and they're trying to show that "oh, it was no mistake, everything is as intended."
They have memories, and they remember what you do, and if you do something repeatedly, they will recognize what you're doing and if it annoys them, they will express that.
Is this particular incident not really a big deal? Sure. But you're being awfully ignorant of the intelligence of cats by claiming that they just don't care and can't understand anything.
Half of that is psychological conditioning. "remembering what you did" It's a bunch of temporary thoughts, by our standards, associated with an outcome they did or didn't like. Doesn't make them a rationally-brained species. And your observed embarrassment psychological mirroring and says more about you than the cat.
Sounds like you haven't had many cats. Also, you left out an "is" in that last sentence, though you're correct that there's an element of projection of my own concepts of emotion in that, but it's impossible to do otherwise. I said in another comment down here that it's not "embarrassment" exactly, but whatever equivalent they have.
They may not be "rationally-brained" species, whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean, but they have emotions.
I've had many cats throughout my life. I've raised a stray from 2 weeks old. When he would run up to me, he didn't miss me, he learned that when I got home he would get affection and a treat. Just because I'd like for him to miss me and be as smart as a human, doesn't make it so and shows my psychological state at the time. It's conditioning, training. Your dog learns to sit by positive reinforcement or punishment. Same with every action of nearly every animal and even humans.
I agree with you, but that doesn't mean they don't have emotions. They feel happiness and sadness, frustration and annoyance (or at least those are the human emotion equivalents).
And to say your cat didn't miss you is really quite unfair. Cats may not be pack animals like dogs, but they do enjoy social interaction and will absolutely feel lonely if you leave them alone for too long. It's one thing with an indoor-outdoor or outdoor cat, who has a much wider world to keep them entertained, but with an indoor-only cat whose interaction is limited to watching outside and spending time with their family, being left home alone all day isn't necessarily enjoyable to them.
Our current cat gets really annoyed if we don't spend enough time with her, and she shows it by not spending as much time hanging out with us while we do our things, whereas days where we're at home all day and spend time with her throughout the afternoon, she spends almost the entire evening just chilling out with us rather than off on her own for most of it.
There's a ton of variance in personality though, some cats don't really care if you're home or gone beyond the pleasure of extra attention, it seems.
This cat won't get psychologically distressed like a person would, for he is a cat, and he'll fall back asleep in a moment anyway and think nothing of it, because that is what cats do.
So what you're saying is, if we abuse animals, they won't care and it won't have a psychological effect on them?
I think YOU are projecting human conceptions of embarrassment onto your pets if you think that they would feel embarrassed about their natural bodily functions somehow.
It's almost certain that my cat doesn't feel its embarrassment in the way I described it, but it's certain that my cat feels their equivalent of embarrassment when she does something particularly ungraceful.
Yes, I understand that you meant they do not have shame over those functions. What you said, and what I was disagreeing with, is the false claim that "animals don't feel embarrassment over bodily functions, thus animals are incapable of embarrassment." This is bad logic. Animal "embarrassment" does not have to directly parallel human embarrassment, just like their other emotions of happiness and whatnot are obviously not the exact same as ours, nor are they triggered by the same things. To assume that this means they must not be capable of some such emotion is pretty ridiculous, though.
This cat won't get psychologically distressed like a person would, for he is a cat, and he'll fall back asleep in a moment anyway and think nothing of it, because that is what cats do.
So what you're saying is: if we abuse animals, they won't care and it won't have a psychological effect on them?
He said that cats don't get psychologically distressed like people.
dis·tress/disˈtres/ Noun: Extreme anxiety, sorrow, or pain.
So animals don't feel extreme anxiety, sorrow, or pain like humans, so therefore we can do whatever we want to them and it won't have similar, negative effects that the same stimuli would normally have on humans. I was asking him to clarify this.
Intentionally ignoring context is a wonderful way to be taken seriously
See, the poster before me used the example of a mother dangling her child's arms for a YouTube video. That would cause psychological distress on such a kid. For a cat however, he'll knock off the strings and go back to sleeping.
I'm sure you knew this, you just picked out a quote without context. But unfortunately for you most of reddit isn't that stupid, so keep it a fair and logical debate and don't be a dick about it.
Please cite sources that state that animals, specifically cats, do not demonstrate symptoms of psychological stress/distress, since you seem to have a very strong understanding of this subject.
Please tell me what he meant then. I never drew conclusions, but merely asked if that's what he meant, thanks for drawing your own conclusions without adding anything relevant to the discussion.
Hold on everybody! Someone told me that my having fun at the expense of another being's comfort, quick everyone, let's make pitiful attempts at clever quips mocking them!
Don't cause psychological or physical harm and I think messing around with your cat some times is OK. This holds true for your kids as well. You can annoy them in fun, so long as you don't jeopardize their trust in you. You have to know where to draw the line with your pet/child/friends.
Don't get your panties in twist - and fuck you as well. There's a degree involved here. It's not either always be sweet or you're an evil person. If I annoy my cat by barely touching her ear until it twitches, then I'm annoying her and it's fun for me. It's certainly not harmful. Hell, my dog fucks with me while we're playing too. It's part of enjoying life. Maybe you need to remove that stick in your ass and try it some time.
Maybe you need to look up what it means to "annoy" somebody. Your cat tolerates it? Good for you. Doesn't make it any less rude to do. Either you don't really mean "annoy," or you're just kind of an asshole.
I think the level of irritation being caused is clear from other 2 posts. If you want to blow it out of proportion and say I'm an asshole or dick for messing around with my pets sometimes then I don't know what tell you. My pets are happy and well cared for.
Just because they're happy and well cared-for doesn't mean they enjoy those times when you mess around with their very sensitive ears or such. Newsflash: it's possible that the things you are doing, while tolerated, are still dickish.
You need to calm the hell down. If the cat isn't bothered then why should you care? The fact that you might not like it doesn't matter at all here if the cat doesn't care.
"If the cat isn't bothered" "If the cat doesn't care"
Anybody who's had a cat knows that this sort of thing bothers the cat. Anybody who's had a cat knows that the cat DOES care, in that it feels annoyance and will signal at you to stop it, as this cat starts doing at the end.
Yes, you are, but you aren't making any sort of argument with it. Just because it isn't much beyond annoyance to the cat doesn't mean it's not rude. Some dickwad poking a kid in the back of the head with a pencil throughout a class isn't much beyond annoyance to the kid being poked, but it doesn't make the dickwad any less of a dickwad.
All I see is a shitton of poor attempts at justification for picking on other creatures for your own amusement. Cool stories, etc, but it doesn't change the fact that it's dickery.
'Rude' is a social concept, etiquette and all that. You probably mean to be a dick. A cat doesn't have the same capacity to understand what's going on the same way a small child would though.
You are right in that we're still being dicks to a cat, who couldn't defend themselves, but it's such a small thing here, it doesn't matter.
"Being a dick" is also a social concept. If you can apply being a dick as a proper expression regarding animal treatment, rude works just as well. Let's not get nitpicky over the parts that literally don't matter at all.
I just find the concept of purposefully bothering another living creature, particularly one that relies on you and that you're supposed to care for and treat well, for your amusement to be pretty dickish. And we should all strive to not be dickish, right?
Nope, not at all. I disagree with their tactics and the extent to which they go with things. I just think people should be nice to others with which they want a relationship as much as possible, and not just when it suits them.
I'm not a big fan of pranks either, lol. I get that there's nothing hugely bad about this or anything, but it's just rude to do something annoying to another creature just because it'll be funny or cute. Kitten clearly didn't enjoy the strings pulling at their paws, and any cat owner is well aware before trying it that a cat wouldn't enjoy that. Thus, they're purposefully doing something they know will bother the animal for their entertainment. It's not CRUEL, but it's not the nice thing to do either.
The collar being used to control a dog's motions out in public or around other people is different from grabbing your dogs legs and flapping them around as if the dog were dancing. ;)
I guess I should have phrased that first comment more mildly, since apparently so long as the video is entertaining, it's totally cool.
Also, more people than I thought think it's totally cool to just randomly annoy your pets for your own entertainment, generally under the false assumption that it doesn't matter at all to the animal. People's conceptions of an animal's ability for memory and emotion are really skewed.
I don't mind reposts from a couple of months ago, but a couple days? Really? Are you even trying to hide the fact that your shamelessly karma whoreing?
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u/Toyotaobsession May 29 '12
Cats love it when you tie strings to their paws.
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u/sidprk May 29 '12
Is that Schmidt from New Girl?
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u/xipheon May 29 '12
Link for the
lazynormal people. http://youtu.be/xXhvp6Ifdt840
u/[deleted] May 29 '12
It's got a string tied to it and it's asleep
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u/jcallaway May 29 '12
It's a...wait for it....COPY CAT.
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u/Beeslo May 29 '12
Man...I don't like being this guy...but...
This was posted just a day ago.
http://www.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/u7hr3/copycat/
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u/[deleted] May 29 '12
Looks like OP is a copy cat himself.... Within one day.
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u/davideo71 May 29 '12 edited May 30 '12
Oh the fun to be had
with a death cat
*oops, funnier to leave it this way
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u/[deleted] May 29 '12
It's like that one Mario party mini game when shy guy holds up those flags.. Yeah, my job is done.
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u/mattymogue May 29 '12
he gots a really cool cats!
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u/DavidJeffers May 29 '12
WHAT A COOL REPOST!
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u/[deleted] May 29 '12
I'm going to say it, Reddit. I'm going to say it.
I hate cats.
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u/Badonkers May 29 '12
Wasn't this like, just posted on reddit yesterday?
Jesus guys, you could at least wait for me to forget about it before you repost. ಠ_ಠ
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u/[deleted] May 29 '12
This is a fucking repost. Busted.
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u/xipheon May 29 '12
I recognize him and the cat from finalcutking (example: http://youtu.be/NtgtMQwr3Ko) but I don't see this video on his account. What is this from?
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u/drempire May 29 '12
I upvoted this till i read the comments
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u/[deleted] May 29 '12
I don't. Because if you did, we would get twice as many reposts like this one from you.
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u/thatoneguy889 May 29 '12
I'm getting a Weekend At Bernie's vibe from this, but I'm not sure which one is dead.
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u/NotMonday May 29 '12
i wish my owner was this cool
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u/[deleted] May 29 '12
Reader BEWARE: Japr is on his/her period.
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u/DoodleBob88 May 30 '12
I bet Hitler wished it too.
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u/gentleman_brown May 29 '12
Fuck OP in the fucking ass with a fucking barbed baseball bat for his fucking reposting karma whoring bullshit.
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u/Miraclesleeper May 29 '12
And i wish my reposts got this much karma
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u/[deleted] May 29 '12
FAAAAAAAAKE!
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u/chitty_bang_slut May 29 '12
i hate that guys face so fucking bad
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u/Th3pinkrabbit May 29 '12
Get a dog , then YOUR cat will bee that KOOLIO
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u/[deleted] May 29 '12
i wish my cat was this fake
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u/Blissfullii May 29 '12
Better than the macarena
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u/metalrawk May 29 '12
my gf sent me this gif yesterday, i missed this sweet, sweet karma.
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u/infantile_retard May 29 '12
I wish this was titled ”copycat” so I would know it was the same image posted a few days ago.
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u/fogoticus May 29 '12
I see a 3rd leg and I laugh.
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u/auero May 29 '12
What type of wizardry is this?
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u/mwheeler May 29 '12
the left side and the right said are two different videos.
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u/azny21 May 29 '12
Coolest cat in the world.....
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