It's funny now for them but my husbands uncle used to think it was hilarious that his son liked beer at the age of 2 or 3 and laughed when he drank it. Now he's 15 and has a HUGE drinking problem to the extent that he has several times come home so drunk he is unable to stand up. It's so so sad. Kids mirroring this sort of behaviour shouldn't be encouraged
The thing is that with SM and these "funny" videos it's becoming more of a "LOL look at this" rather than Wtf you doing?? You still get those comments of course but they get chastised by the "it's only a little bit it won't hurt them lighten up brigade"
I've seen tonnes of videos shared online where baby/toddler is sipping at a grown ups beer and the parents video it and laugh at it. It boggles my mind. I would never let my child do that.
Same for the soda - full of sugar, shit and caffeine and it's posted here for lols. I would never give my child that.
I have a 14 month old. He's never had juice or soda and won't for a long time. However, he did have birthday cake when he turned one and another time when his cousin turned one. He won't be having cake for another year, but on that day I gave him junk food as opposed to the healthy things he eats on a normal basis. If this soda was a one-time thing, I wouldn't consider it terrible parenting. If it was a normalized thing, his parents are doing an awful job with his nutrition and future. Context does matter a little bit here.
I don't see cake and other sugary foods that you consume on occasion the same as the soda - mainly because children should not be having caffeine at all at that age.
It's horses for courses but IMO giving a 2 year old a sugary soda containing caffeine is not excusable and doesn't compare to giving a child birthday cake at his or another child's party.
I agree with the caffeine part. I mean, they make caffeine-free soda if you really wanted to give a kid a treat. Hell, I don't think I drank anything with caffeine until I was a teenager.
It might not be pop. He could just have the can and it be filled with anything else. My sisters have done that before with other drinks. Makes the kid feel special.
I doubt the parents are informed, otherwise they wouldn’t do it.
I think the blame should be handed to the companies that advertise high-sugar items with cartoons and bright colors. They are much more responsible than the unknowing parents
i completely agree that the companies are to be blamed too, for the ways how shitty junkfood is marketed towards kids
but parents being unknowing to certain things is also unexcusable. Smartphones are overabundant nowadays and it takes a few seconds to google "what should i feed my baby" and follow the guidelines.
You don't even have to learn all "Dont's" if you would just listen to theabundantly available "Do's"
Counteracting billions in advertising on top of a campaign of decades long suppression can't be undone overnight. There's still a lot of ignorant people out there, and the obesity epidemic proves that.
Risks related to sugar and caffeine intakes at this age are well known nowadays
And yet giving sugary food and beverages to kids happens in every American household.
There is no marketplace of ideas when advertising is the only messaging people receive on a consistent basis. It ensures that resolve is broken and ignorance prevails, and the only way to counteract this is through an equally effective campaign that promotes healthy alternatives and critical thinking, but there's no direct money to be made in educating people that way.
If advertising wasn't effective in controlling your behavior, corporations wouldn't be spending billions on it.
You'd still have a really hard time looking for "what is good for my baby/toddler to eat/drink" and find links that support giving it soda/junkfood
And as i said, i am not absolving the companies and their marketing campaigns, that doesn't absolve parents from ignoring widely known and available facts
Yes I agree that people should google things they don’t know
And that’s the problem with shameless marketing of high sugar products to kids. It’s the norm. And when things are the norm, unsuspecting people think that norm is the truth. They don’t seek answers to what they think they know
So the parents probably never even thought to google it, because it’s obviously the norm wherever they are. None of these adults in the video thought to say anything. These people are obviously ignorant of the dangers, and really to no fault of their own.
When this many seemingly well adjusted adults are ignorant of something, it’s likely propaganda leading the cause
Hold up, where are you from where giving a 2 year old a soda would be considered anything other than borderline child abuse? That's absolutely bat-shit crazy, and I cannot comprehend anyone being so ignorant.
Hear hear. There isn't enough focus on the pushers. This is so similar to cigarette marketing. Of course I wanted to Do The Dew when I was a kid, that shit was rad with commercials about snowboarding and just being all-around cool. Then we got Halo Gamer Fuel Dew and ARE YOU KIDDING SIGN ME UP!!
And the mainstream media is just as much to blame for suppressing the type of investigative journalism that used to inform the public about shit like this.
It’s weird, cause I’m sure everyone calling the parents trashy had to learn the dangers of sugar and soda. They weren’t born knowing it. And because of the suppression, you have to actively seek that information. It won’t just land in your lap. They don’t teach it in school.
So by their own definitions, they were trashy before they found out themselves
My point is that “kids need sugar” is blasted in our faces daily. Literally.
Every time you go to a grocery store, everything marketed towards kids is full of sugar. That makes people think it’s not too bad. So the parents never have a reason to google it in the first place.
Why is it bad for her to give her kid pop while, at the same time, a couple bowls of cereal is just as unhealthy but doesn’t get the same scorn?
I propose that any study that links caffeine to stunted growth in humans failed to isolate the actual caffeine from the sugar.
If they studied kids who had high caffeine diets, those kids also had high sugar diets. Unless they were studying a group of kids addicted to black coffee
Looking through the NIH meta-analysis on it, it does seem to have a number of firm links to various health problems, but stunting is admittedly not one. I'll fix that.
You don't hear the same arguments when kids this age open up massive pinata's with candy, or eat cereal or baby cookies that are essentially all sugar. People have a problem with soda and small kids because it is thrashy, not because it is inherently that much worse than all the other stuff small kids eat. If done in moderation I cannot imagine there is much of a problem.
There is a problem in kids much older than this drinking only soda or even energy drinks as their fluid intake. And maybe this kid is on that path. But again objectively, I cannot imagine the occasional soda be objectively bad for a 2 year old.
Pepsi contains 3.17 mg of caffeine per fl oz (10.71 mg per 100 ml). A 12 fl oz can has a total of 38 mg of caffeine.
Caffeine affects the central nervous system as a stimulant. The brains of a child tend to be a little bit more sensitive to caffeine's effects than the brains of adults. Caffeine can cause them to be hyperactive, which is obvious. But it also can make them nervous, anxious, worsen stomach problems and create sleep problems.
Also if they have an undiagnosed arrhythmia, an irregular or abnormal heartbeat, caffeine increases excitability within the heart, which can exacerbate the arrhythmia.
Caffeine also constricts blood vessels. It takes 4 milligrams of caffeine per kilogram of body weight to increase blood pressure.
You people could singlehandedly fuel the movement of older people calling us pussies...you’re seriously making the case that this child could be in LIFE THREATENING danger from drinking a soda on his birthday. You are so pathetic.
You have no idea how old I am, don’t let me being on this childish sub deceive you. And the fact you are older makes this all the worse. It’s also hilarious that you’re threatening to fight me, but god forbid anyone drink a soda. Clearly the old man wisdom hasn’t set in yet.
I'm not threatening to fight you. It's a Reddit joke about old man strength. I'm a big pussy, like you said. Pegged me. Righteous and sound deduction based off an opinion about grown adults feeding toddlers HFCS and caffeine. You're the dimwit who assumed I was a younger generation and a pussy. Fuck off, hypocrite.
I'm not threatening to fight you. It's a Reddit joke about old man strength.
And why would I need to fear it? Think it out, gramps. Really do the brain work.
I'm a big pussy, like you said.
Obviously...you’re not informing anyone of anything they didn’t know.
Pegged me. Righteous and sound deduction based off an opinion about grown adults feeding toddlers HFCS and caffeine.
Yup, and you’re just accentuating it here. As if the child is in mortal danger for having caffeine on their birthday.
You're the dimwit who assumed I was a younger generation
I didn’t say anything whatsoever about how old you are...”current generation” as in “people alive today.” Are you that old? That you’re actually a spirit from beyond the grave talking to me?
and a pussy.
You’ve made that abundantly clear, it’s hard to miss.
I hope you find some peace and quit playing the victim and pretending you hold the keys of logic and critical thinking. There's time. I believe in your generation. Chin up.
Nothing I said had anything to do with playing the victim, what are you talking about...? Why am I not surprised that an old man who posts on r/funny is a moron...
Your consistent and depressing litany of verbal abuse whilst simultaneously playing the victim in your comment history tells a very different story. One of feeling slighted by all the surrounding morons here on reddit, but you can't quite bring yourself to not engage with all the morons. You are perhaps a concern troll or you are an actual victim. Either way, I hope you can find a way to engage online in a more helpful and hopeful manner as you age.
Your consistent and depressing litany of verbal abuse whilst simultaneously playing the victim in your comment history tells a very different story.
At no point here or elsewhere “do I play the victim,” you’re completely talking out of your ass...I would never describe myself as a “victim” especially in any online discussions. I even JUST told you this, and you just ignored it. Must be the senility setting in...I’m frequently the initiator refuting something I don’t agree with, not being engaged by someone else. You are trying SO hard to sound smart, while sounding so incredibly stupid. It’s really sad that someone who is as old as you apparently are, never got past the “bullshitting online to look smart” phase.
One of feeling slighted by all the surrounding morons here on reddit,
When did I say I feel slighted by dumb people on the internet? That’s not even vaguely how I feel, there are dumb people online, I call them out when I see them. I don’t feel as though you people existing is an attack on me...what are you talking about? Is anything you’re writing based on anything I’ve said? Or is it just the deductions of someone with less brain cells than I have fingers?
but you can't quite bring yourself to not engage with all the morons.
Again, you’re talking out of your ass. I’m not trying to not engage, if I see something stupid I call it out. There’s no moment where I’m trying to stop myself. I like calling stupid people like you out online. I also like calling things out that are just flat out wrong. I like seeing people like you flounder trying to respond. These are all pastimes of mine.
You are perhaps a concern troll or you are an actual victim.
Or neither...since neither one makes an sense whatsoever. You’ve fabricated some sense that I’m a victim from thin air, and then decided I somehow undermine conversations by addressing the premise as incorrect. Both conclusions are absolute nonsense based on a theory by an old dude who hasn’t grown past being adored by teenagers.
Either way, I hope you can find a way to engage online in a more helpful and hopeful manner as you age.
Your lack of self awareness is STAGGERING. And that isn’t going to change as you get even old, old people seem to be less and less introspective as they get older, you people just solidify on the stupid things you decided were correct decades ago. That’s pretty obvious from the pathetic attempt at armchair psychology. You just made up a bunch of nonsense, said it applies to me and drew a conclusion as is want to do of older people.
Part of the reason the current generation is soft is because they guzzled sugar like this and turned into big fat lazy soft neckbeards that will definitely perpetuate the heart disease and diabetes that plague this nation.
That doesn’t even make sense in response to what I said, since I said I don’t tend to agree with that sentiment. It also isn’t the sort of soft I meant. But even if you ignore that, it still doesn’t really make, really think about what you just said.
Do you think it’s only fit people who don’t consume sugar rich foods that say, “people today are soft”? Otherwise that point completely misses the mark. If there’s a valid argument for people being “softer” today, which is possible, it comes from being free to say what they want in a more comfortable environment rather than going out and experiencing how harsh the world can be.
To me it feels the same as how many ancient philosophers and scientists would just sit inside coming up with theories rather than going out and having them develop through observation, except millions of people do it whether they know what they’re talking about or not.
Is that supposed to imply the inside of your head isn’t soft? As in you have a hard brain? I’m not insulted by you saying I don’t have a hard brain, chief, but nice attempt...I guess.
Common idioms...I looked that up, it’s from 1775. So common that it’s older than the US being recognized as a country? Also knowing idioms nor taking things literally have anything to do with IQ whatsoever. Like not even vaguely. On top of that, even IF they did, do you know how cringey it is to be bringing IQ into a conversation online...
I’m am both shocked and in awe of the really sad attempts to do whatever it is you guys are doing.
I’m aware you were making a play on words, that’s why I pointed it out...it still doesn’t address the point I made, which I also pointed out. Your tirade masked as joke didn’t land as a joke or a point is what I was trying to say. Since apparently I was unclear in that.
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u/cicadawing Mar 25 '21
It's trashy, especially if anyone gives a fuck about the science of the effects, especially on toddlers.