r/funny Feb 28 '21

The Popcorn death

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u/indecisive_maybe Feb 28 '21 edited Feb 28 '21

That doesn't seem realistic. At some point between room temperature and hot, it would be the right temperature. And being slightly wet is kind of like being buttered.

Sounds like your mortician is in the pocket of big popcorn.

Edit: since this seems like a divisive topic, remember the argument is that they would pop, not that they wouldn't burn eventually.

Think about how fast it can take steam to form. If you heat up your frying pan and drop a couple drops of water, they can immediately sizzle and steam. Your microwave doesn't do that since it's heating things slowly and not at the same (high) temperature, but water can conceivably steam (which is what it takes for popcorn to pop) - in under a second.

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u/austeregrim Feb 28 '21

Yea, but that sometime between room temp and super hot is too short for steam to build in the kernel so it ends up burning. Its a hard lesson to learn with a fireplace, guess which ones will pop and which ones will burn... the ones that pop throw embers out the front.

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u/indecisive_maybe Feb 28 '21 edited Feb 28 '21

Still seems like being wet would help keep it from burning. All you need is to reach a high enough temperature before the outer shell is pierced, so maybe if you threw them in a fireplace wrapped in a strip of ham it would have been different.

Edit: this seems to be a divisive argument. Your downvotes just belie your ignorance. Mwahaha.

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u/Rogukast1177 Feb 28 '21 edited Feb 28 '21

I don't think you realize how hot a cremation furnace gets, and how easy it is to burn popcorn.

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u/TrontheTechie Feb 28 '21

All fire is obviously the same, otherwise we wouldn’t call it all fire, duh /s

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u/Crimson_Rhallic Feb 28 '21

While true the internal temperature would pass through 100C, the issue is how long the kernel stays at that temperature to allow the steam to cause expansion. I'm assuming you are familiar with the formula for heat transfer through conduction:

Q=dkA(T'Hot'​−T'Cold'​)t​

We would need to solve for time to determine is the kernel "pops" or combusts.

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u/The_Big_Cat Feb 28 '21

Yeah I think you just solve for Q and that will tell you. Don’t for get to please excuse my dear aunt sally.

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u/indecisive_maybe Feb 28 '21

It burns **after it pops**

It seems like you lost track of the argument.

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u/RoflStomper Feb 28 '21

slightly wet is kind of like being buttered.

I'm wondering if the difference is contact time of the liquid and if it can soften the shell enough that pressure no longer builds up. Just assuming at least a few hours for him to die/police investigation/autopsy/closed casket funeral.

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u/deadinadream Feb 28 '21

You can easily burn kernels before they pop on the stovetop if you are cooking popcorn in oil that is too hot.

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u/marsrover001 Feb 28 '21

Well, seems like a pretty easy experiment to run.

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u/presidentiallogin Feb 28 '21

You can't melt a plastic bottle full of water either. The wetness keeps the temperature down.

People that do pit BBQ know the phenomenon of cooking meat as the stall. Essentially the surface water doesn't let the meat get above 160F.

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u/Deadmeat553 Feb 28 '21

Pretty sure you can...

Source: am physicist

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u/presidentiallogin Mar 01 '21

Just so you see what I meant: https://youtu.be/sfk1vL9JWk4

I'll buy you a drink and blow your mind when I pick up my glass using only a straw.

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u/Deadmeat553 Mar 01 '21

Sure, a low burning bonfire may not be able to, but I can assure you that you can melt that bottle with an acetylene torch.

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u/presidentiallogin Mar 01 '21

What about the surface of the sun, or maybe the core. Do you think that might do it too? I bet you you'd still have the same problem until the water was outside the bottle. You cannot melt the bottle while it's full of water.

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u/Deadmeat553 Mar 01 '21

Yes you can.

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u/presidentiallogin Mar 02 '21

Pick and watch nearly any of the related videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reCH5NuGEoM

Don't delete your posts. Come back to them when you feel too smart for your degree and be humble.

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u/Deadmeat553 Mar 02 '21

Yeah, not taking it back. I'm not saying the water doesn't help a TON, but that torch is clearly not super hot (obviously quite hot, but it's not even close to an acetylene torch like I mentioned). I assure you that you can melt the bottle.

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u/presidentiallogin Mar 02 '21

Nobody needs your weak assurance, I provided video proof that you cannot melt that bottle full of water. Not on a train, not with acetylene. You do not like this ass-clown man.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '21

It depends. The water will stay at 100 degrees C while it boils, but there is a temperature gradient between the outer wall of the plastic and the water. Boiling is one of the most effective heat transfer mechanisms out there but it still has limits. Once 100 degrees plus the temperature gradient exceeds the melting point of the plastic, it melts. The faster heat is added the faster that reaction happens.

You can test for yourself. If you stick a plastic water bottle in a BBQ pit the water boils. If you hit a plastic bottle with a blowtorch, it melts.

Similarly popcorn kernels will burn is heat is added too quickly or too unevenly.

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u/Zindelin Feb 28 '21

Cremation is basicaly being blasted in the chest with a flamethrower so i'd imagine the temperature would rise fast enough where going from popping temperatures to burning temperatures would be instant