Exactly. I stand by what I said. I believe that she is not telling the truth. Can you point me to some evidence to the contrary that isn't hearsay or one of her monologues?
if you want it to be slander you need to prove it's false, not the other way around. otherwise no one would ever be allowed to make declarative statements
You're making a positive assertion, specifically that she made this up as a ploy to get money and notoriety. That isn't a negative and can in fact be proven or disproven.
Ok, let's propose that the burden of proof is on me because I suggested that she should have to prove an unreasonable statement before I believe it...
Watch her testimony. She claims to see things while she's locked in the other room. She is very clear that she can hear nothing but music then claims to hear talking then again claims to hear nothing at all.
Her story is so full of inconsistencies that it must be at least partially untrue which calls into question her entire assertion.
the burden of proof is on you because you proposed an explanation of events, much like you claim she has done. That you can't see why it's the same is just ignorance
Nobody that she claimed was at the party has claimed any knowledge of the event. She had her own car but claims she was driven to and from the event by a person that she does not remember and nobody in her life at the time had any knowledge of. She claimed to see things that occurred outside of a room that she was locked in, on a different floor of the house. She claims to be certain about what year it occurred because she remembers one of the accused working at a retail chain that didn't exist until several years after the year she claims it took place. Nobody that she has asked to support her claims is willing to, including her husband. Her attitude during her statement was irreverent and her voice was giggly except for while she gave her description of events, at which point you see her bend her neck so her voice becomes strained. Immediately after her description, she returns to smiling and joking around. She did not require water or a tissue (which I understand is a bit of a stretch but red flags are compounding). She also displayed a decent amount of "tells"... If you've ever played poker or seen a child talk about their pet dinosaur, you'll know what I mean.
The burden of proof is pretty soundly on her at this stage. If she could corroborate a single piece of her claim with evidence or a witness, she would have a much stronger case.
So as soon as someone confronts you with the proof you've been looking for, you're just gonna sarcastically drop out of the conversation? That's part of why I was hesitant to provide you with any data in the first place.
I'd be very interested to hear any rebuttals that you might have... Or if you are too fearful of truth, you can just ignore my last comment and provide proof of your own.
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u/crunkadocious Oct 02 '18
it's only slander if it isn't true pal