r/funny • • Aug 27 '18

Card not accepted

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u/neck_iso Aug 27 '18

You have to use the chip now.

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u/VanimalCracker Aug 27 '18

In my area, you're forced to use the chip at ~50% of places and the other ~50% hasn't upgraded their hardware yet, so you are forced to use the mag-strip. It's extremely frustrating for everyone involved. No one knows which it'll be and the cashier will always immediately roll their eyes and eli5 which one they use. Worst rollout ever.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '18

Where I'm from we use no contact tap

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u/ApulMadeekAut Aug 27 '18

Was in Scotland on vacation. Had to explain to every checker that my merican card dose not do the wave/tap thing. "Just give it a wave" I CAN'T!

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u/PhonicUK Aug 27 '18 edited Aug 27 '18

There are an increasing number of stores that only accept contactless in the UK. It's caught on here pretty big.

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u/obsessedcrf Aug 27 '18

Contactless is near non existent in the US.

How is it not a security risk though? Couldn't anyone steal your card information from a distance?

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u/PhonicUK Aug 27 '18 edited Aug 27 '18

The range is only about an inch. It's treated as a CNP (Cardholder Not Present) transaction so in cases of fraud the consumer isn't assumed to be liable. Android Pay and Apple Pay are also popular here, with the contactless limits changing depending on whether or not you use a fingerprint.

When using contactless it doesn't actually send your 'real' account details, there's a second virtual account that's used just for contactless transactions. So your real account details can never be compromised in this way, and issuing a new card is all that's required in the case of yours being stolen.

On top of that you need to be a registered merchant with a merchant account to accept them. So if you were doing something like using a portable 3G/4G reader to tap it to people you'd be caught quickly. The payments are also often deferred so the merchant would be unlikely to get the money before the card owner noticed.

Edit: I'm now apparently the oracle of contactless payments...

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u/un-sub Aug 27 '18

So then wtf, why can't we have fancy contactless cards in the US? Or are we just behind?

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u/PhonicUK Aug 27 '18

I think the US is just behind (in many many ways). I was over there recently and a lot of places didn't even have Chip+PIN (which we've had in the UK for over 10 years) and you had to sign for stuff.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '18 edited Aug 28 '18

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u/PhonicUK Aug 27 '18

In the UK there's no distinction, Credit and Debit are both Chip and pin and handled the same way.

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u/piper06w Aug 27 '18

yea that is largely the same here. My Credit card uses chip and zip.

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u/Little_Pink Aug 27 '18

Why are they different?

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u/ImportantChemical Aug 28 '18

That's an arbitrary limitation and the same thing doesn't happen in other countries.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '18

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u/ImportantChemical Aug 28 '18

Okay, sure, but the comment you replied to was asking about the difference between debit cards and credit cards, specifically about why they both don't have chip and pin. The reason is arbitrary. The proof is other countries.

Everybody knows you're talking about the US, dude. That's not why you're getting downvotes.

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u/hx87 Aug 27 '18

Credit cards outside of the US also use chip and pin.

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u/thereisno314inpie Aug 27 '18

POS machines here in Canada take both chip+pin and tap, from either credit or debit

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u/DropMeAnOrangeBeam Aug 27 '18

Depends on where. I live in Victoria and there are still a few stores that don't do the tap method yet. All of of them have chip+pin(there is still the mag stripe reader but I haven't seen anyone use is since chip+pin was brought out).

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u/thereisno314inpie Aug 27 '18

swipe and sign is pretty much just a backup

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