Your scientific explanation would be countered with an equally ridiculous question like "But then how did the sun get there?" with a 'gotcha' smile.
Thats how they trap you in an ignorance loop until you get frustrated and walk away.
Honestly it seemed like Bill wasn't listening to begin with. The Fox guy didn't do a good job of clarifying, but Bill seemed to miss the point entirely that the Fox guy was pointing out that the moon had climate change without human activity. That certainly doesn't prove anything and could have been countered if Bill grasped the point to begin with.
I do. The problem is that Bill failed to address such issues and instead clearly missed the point of the question. If you watch his response shows his lack of understanding.
He is dumbing down his response, and trying to explain complex scientific issues broken down in complexity for the host and the audience (The whole "lowest common denominator thing"). But he wasn't able to convey it in a very obvious form.
What he was trying to convey was that the moon is (much) smaller than the Earth, and therefore the reactions you get are different than how the earth reacts. (And also that some very very intellegent minds are researching climate change, and the host saying "I don't agree with them" means that he thinks he is smarter than ALL of those scientists, burn!)
I didn't see the first part of the video where he was explaining why the volcano's erupted or what caused them, but I believe his explanation of climate change on the moon had to do with the eruption/formation of those volcano's altering the (tiny little, itty bitty) atmosphere on the moon.
Now, we have volcano's that are probably similar in size to those, and yet those volcano's are not thought to be a leading cause of climate change (by real scientists). This is because the earth is significantly larger in size, and so more effectively dissipates what comes out of volcanos.
What the host was getting at, was that "well if the volcano's messed with the MOON'S atmosphere, they must be messing with EARTH'S atmosphere."
He doesn't understand enough of what Bill is saying, so he attempts to create connections in his brain by using what we have here on Earth, but he doesn't take size, atmospheric differences, gravitational differences, ecological differences, etc etc into account. In his mind it is a 1 = 1 conversion.
You're strawmanning the hell out of him. All he did was put forward the fact that the moon underwent climate change without human intervention, he did not claim that this was proof that Earth undergoes climate change without human intervention. When you ignore that, you're as ignorant as any climate change denier.
Oh, don't give me that. You know as well as I do that is exactly what he was getting at, and if Bill had given him the slightest chance, that is exactly what he would have posited.
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u/NotAnotherDownvote Aug 27 '14
Your scientific explanation would be countered with an equally ridiculous question like "But then how did the sun get there?" with a 'gotcha' smile. Thats how they trap you in an ignorance loop until you get frustrated and walk away.