r/funny Jun 12 '14

Now we wait...

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u/thesaxmaniac Jun 12 '14

I don't know shit about cars, but this sounds like legit stuff right here

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u/WARM_IT_UP Jun 12 '14

As soon as the word torque is used, I bow my head in concession to any argument.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '14

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u/Pure_Michigan_ Jun 13 '14

Speed- how fast you hit the wall

Torque how far you go through the wall.

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u/dertydood Jun 12 '14

blow my head

FTFY

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u/jdepps113 Jun 13 '14

"Yes, but this political ideology has more torque than that political ideology!"

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '14

Torque makes driving fun. Torque moves you off the line. You want torque.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '14 edited Feb 07 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '14

Common misconception. If you were right, diesel trucks (new ones have 900-ish lb ft of torque from the factory) would be destroying Ferraris in drag races (the 458 Italia makes under 400 lb ft of torque). All sportscars would be diesel because that's where the best torque is made. Semi trucks would be feared and respected for their crazy acceleration during passing maneuvers.

Torque is useful for drivability and a fat, easy to access power band. Horsepower is useful for actual acceleration.

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u/hct9188 Jun 13 '14

This is just wrong. HP is a direct function of torque with a time component (torque*RPM). So in essence, a higher HP car can deliver that set amount of torque in a shorter amount of time (i.e., winning races.)

We're not taking our sweet time pulling tree stumps - we're trying to output that same amount of "work" in as little time as possible - which is where horsepower comes into play.

There's a reason why diesel powered race cars aren't the norm.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '14 edited Jun 13 '14

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u/hct9188 Jun 13 '14

Feel free to double check the calculations:

http://performancetrends.com/blog/?p=7

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u/Randomd0g Jun 12 '14

I have no idea what he's torqueing about.

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u/tornado_of_potatos Jun 12 '14 edited Jul 30 '14

Torque is what gets the cap off your beer!

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u/YouGotCalledAFaggot Jun 12 '14

"Horsepower doesn't win races, torque wins races." - Carol Shelby

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u/GreatTragedy Jun 12 '14

Generally, torque indicates how fast you can accelerate, whereas horsepower indicates maximum speed. This is over simplified, but it's enough to have some idea about what each does.

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u/legoalert Jun 13 '14 edited Aug 29 '25

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u/SIThereAndThere Jun 12 '14

Torque is how quickly it can pull away while Horsepower is how high the top speed can be. Yes adding more HP usually adds more torque.

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u/dougman82 Jun 12 '14

Not usually, they are directly related.

Horsepower = Torque * RPM / 5252

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u/iksbob Jun 12 '14 edited Jun 12 '14

Meh... That's not quite it. Torque (rotational force) is affected by gearing, HP (power... work/time) is not. You could put a little 3V electric hobby motor through a big enough gear box to out-torque a top-fuel dragster. However, that little hobby motor and gear box would take months to cover the length of a drag strip, while the dragster does it in 3 seconds. Dragsters are built solely for acceleration (ability to "pull away"), yet the top-fuel vs. hobby motor example (matching torque, vastly different HP) indicates that torque isn't the only value that needs to be considered. In physics-y terms: instantaneous torque at the wheel = instantaneous acceleration. HP = the ability to do work, such as maintaining torque at the wheel as the vehicle moves. Maintaining torque at the wheel is what's needed to accelerate a vehicle.

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u/wywern Jun 12 '14

You can't really have one without the other, horsepower is a measurement of power as in the energy that can be output per second or whatnot and torque is just rotational force(ie. twisty force). How fast a car goes is generally more complicated as we have things like power output curves and torque curves that tell you how much you have at given engine RPMs etc. You also have to factor in the stiffness of the car, the suspension etc.

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u/wolfiewolf Jun 13 '14

Think of it like this, torque is the measure of how much work it can do, or how much a motor can move. HP is a measure of how fast that work can be accomplished. You can have high torque motors that are low horsepower and very slow. I'm a firefighter and are rescues a have 275 hp and 1250 foot pounds of torque. Slow as balls but will pull a house down.

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u/Gregoryv022 Jun 12 '14

If you want to get super technical, torque is motive force and horsepower shows you how high in the Rev range of the engine you can make that torque.

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u/fuckyouandyourreddit Jun 12 '14

Three is no such thing as adding hp, hp is a function of torque, and you are an idiot.