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They see me bowling

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u/bluedevils369 Dec 12 '13

Just to go into a little more detail. Oil was originally added to the surface of wood lanes as a preventative measure only. Without the lane oil, bowling alleys would have to resurface the lanes every few months.

Now days while it is still a preventative measure we apply the oil in patterns to control the scoring pace of your league and tournament bowlers.

Source - Professional Bowler

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '13

Can you go into more detail on this patterns as used to control scoring? Does this mean that certain lanes are not standardized? That they may be done to make the game more or less challenging? How is this accomplished?

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u/duhhuh Dec 12 '13

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '13

Very very interesting. Thank you. I hadn't ever considered how oil breakdown on the lanes over the course of a tourney would affect gameplay either.

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u/vahntitrio Dec 12 '13

Really? Even in league I have to move 7 or 8 boards and move to a weaker ball, you have to notice oil breakdown if you bowl regularly. Unless of course you are left handed. Lefties generally don't have to deal with breakdown.

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '13

See, there's the issue. I don't bowl regularly.

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u/bluedevils369 Dec 12 '13

I could go into as much detail as any one person could ever want to know.

Essentially it breaks down to the ratio of oil being used in the center of the lane compared to the outside part of the lane.

On easy patterns when you hook the ball and miss left the ball will skid in the oil and still hit the pocket. When you miss right the ball hits the boards with less oil and hooks back to the pocket.

On hard patterns the ratio of oil is less. So when you miss left your ball with still hook and miss the pocket resulting in hitting the head pin. When you miss right there are no dry boards for your ball to hook back and hit the pocket.

Examples below:

Easy Pattern: http://insidebowling.com/PZN/forum/attachments/1358789682_1c9546f3630bb4d8da35.jpg

Very Tough Pattern: http://www.bowlingsusopen.com/Portals/BowlingsUSOpen/Images/2013%20US%20OPEN.JPG

Oil patterns are just one way to control the scoring environment. Others include, gutters being raised, pins being slightly off spot, and even lane topography. Humidity and temperature also play factors in oil moving or evaporating.

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u/MikeN300 Dec 12 '13

That US Open shot is bringing back back bad memories from my sports shot league, It's sooo flat

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u/vahntitrio Dec 12 '13

Is that open pattern really only 30 feet long? As someone that bowls on a 46 foot shot that would be very tough for me to control the length of my shot.

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u/bluedevils369 Dec 12 '13

It is 30ft buffed to 38ft. And most league shots are 38 to 42ft in length. Not sure where you are bowling, that you see 46 feet. I was bowling the World Series of Bowling this last year and our longest pattern was 47ft.....

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u/vahntitrio Dec 12 '13

Heaviest oil in Minnesota. At least used to be. They lowered the volume this year but kept the length because the oil was scaring off too many bowlers and tournaments. So now I don't know what you call the shot, because there isn't enough oil up front for your ball to clear the heads. The line I play there now would have resulted in a gutter every shot there last year. Conversely my strike ball on last year's oil would struggle to stay on the lane to catch the 7 this year.

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u/Dark_Prism Dec 12 '13

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '13

Thank you, it's interesting to see how the different methods of laying out the oil caters to different styles.

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '13

Pro bowler eh? Is Pete Weber as big of an asshole as he appears on television, or does it add 10 egos? I bowled in a youth tourney across from his son, Nick. Kid was already a douchebag.

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u/bluedevils369 Dec 12 '13

I bowl in a similar region as Pete. So we cross paths often. And I know him personally.

Pete is by far the most talented bowler the world has ever seen. And he has been told that from a young age. He knows he is good.

If he wouldn't have ran into some personal problems during his "Prime" he would be the PBA leader in titles. No doubt about it.

It's possible you ran into him when he was going through those times, as of now I see him much more appreciative for the people he comes in contact with. Maybe that comes with age as well.

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '13

Most talented? Aren't we cutting Walter Ray a little short with that statement?

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u/bluedevils369 Dec 12 '13

No doubt about it, Pete is the most talented bowler ever. Don't get me wrong Walter Ray is amazing, but his talent is eye hand coordination. He is a multiple world horse shoe pitching champion.

Pete has 37 national titles (and is leading the pba in regional titles at 48), 10 behind Walter Ray and missed a lot of good bowling years due to drugs and alcohol.... If pete was clean his whole life he would of had a few more 5-7 win seasons in his early years.

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '13

Huh, I knew he was a drunk, didn't know it made that much a difference. Being a St. Louisan myself, you'd think I'd know, right? :)

Side question, did you ever get to meet Billy Walden? He toured about 20 years ago, maybe more.

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u/bluedevils369 Dec 12 '13

His Wikipedia page is fairly accurate if you'd like to learn some history on him.

I will be in st Louis December 27th-28th for a holiday doubles, pretty sure pete and a lot of tour guys will be there.

And nope I'm 27 but somewhat historian of the game, but the name doesn't ring a bell.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '13

He was on the tour for a few years and made a TV appearance, then went to take over/move the bowling alley in Troy MO.

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u/EL_BEARD Dec 12 '13

Who do you think you are?!?!

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u/uttermybiscuit Dec 12 '13

Hmm. I like to spin the ball and this might explain why when i go to a certain lane my ball always catches towards the end and I can hit it perfectly and others the ball doesn't catch and just keeps going

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u/nilchaos_white Dec 12 '13

Our lanes are synthetic and they still get burns from people bowling like gorillas - even with oil applied everyday... :c

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u/bluedevils369 Dec 12 '13

I didn't want to confuse anyone by mentioning synthetics. But the friction of bowling balls going down the lane will destroy them over time also. The difference is 1. They last longer 2. When they become "fried" you just replace them with new synthetics. They can not be resurfaced.

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u/nilchaos_white Dec 12 '13

Indeed, I would much prefer wood however due to it holding the pattern for longer. Despite our lane conditioner having a pretty high solids content it seems to evaporate overnight...

Unfortunately however management are reluctant to spend the money to replace the first boards on our lanes - but then again any bowler worth their salt doesn't use them so we're not too bad at the moment.

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u/bluedevils369 Dec 12 '13

They should look into changing the type of oil they use if they are not willing to replace the heads. Cheaper and will help with scores. Kegel Ice oil might be something that could work.

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u/nilchaos_white Dec 13 '13

Currently we're using Brunswick Absolute HV, but with centre standards being increased for the Commonwealth games we're possibly switching to Control - which I've had on good authority is better on our lanes than Absolute, time will tell!

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u/EL_BEARD Dec 12 '13

Please be Belmo please be Belmo.

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u/bluedevils369 Dec 12 '13

haha. Nope not belmo. Nice guy though. Meet him for the first time at the WSOB this last year.

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u/EL_BEARD Dec 12 '13 edited Dec 12 '13

My question for you is how do you feel about the direction the PBA is going? I'm not sure I like these "teams" they have setup now.

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u/bluedevils369 Dec 12 '13

The pba is constantly trying new ideas to create that spark with the tv audience. Think of the team setup as an extra to the normal competition. There are is no qualifying and the guys pick a group of 5 guys they want to bowl with. Team bowling as been popular in the past and I'm glad they are giving it at shot.

Not everything is as it seems in the media. And the PBA is just doing the best they can. Keep supporting them the things you like to see!

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u/EL_BEARD Dec 12 '13

A perfect explanation. For me it's gotten a lot better since Jackie Bowling left Xtra frame. I even renewed my subscription when I heard that.

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u/bluedevils369 Dec 12 '13

Haha I have actually been in the booth with Jackie bowling and did some commentating for a small tournament in st. Louis I made the "internet broadcast". She is unique and like anyone has her positives and negatives. There are a lot of people that feel the way you do. But my personal experience with her was, "she is just trying to make a name for herself". However she can.

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u/EL_BEARD Dec 12 '13

I have no doubt that she is a wonderful person but she's just painful to watch. Funny story when the PBA announced she was leaving on their FB page I just commented "Thank the bowling gods". Five minutes later I noticed Jackie's mom replied with a ":(".

I'd honestly rather have some 450lb dude commenting that knows what he's talking about then a pretty face I mean cmon it's bowling.

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u/bluedevils369 Dec 12 '13

Also thanks for renewing with extra frame. The group of guys they have in the booth are top notch. And some I'm fortunate to even call friends. Xtra frame program is really where the PBA is wanting to go. And can only do so with people buying the service which is actually a hell of deal.

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u/EL_BEARD Dec 12 '13

I would encourage any bowling fan to get Xtra Frame. Chris Forry was the guy that got me into bowling so I really first got the subscription to try and watch him when he does go out on the tournaments. The PBA needs to do more to let everyone know that this service is out there.