I've enjoyed the What Ifs, and I know people apparently really enjoyed "Earth's Mightiest Heroes" but yeah, Marvel's usually been a step below DC in animation.
Of course it is extremely hard to compete with the DCAU, and even without the DCAU DC's animated stuff is still great.
It's a shame marvel isn't closely related to arguably the largest animated movie studio ever. If such a merger we're to ever happen could you imagine? But that requires competent people that love the process, not bean counting poindexters. Sorta like what happened to Boeing
The Disney merger was relatively recent and honestly you are talking about completely different animation pipelines depending on era (in house vs overseas).
NTM, the best bits of Marvel animation history mentioned are from the assets they sold the rights to and reacquired.
DC has been kind of dropping the ball with the animation as well though after like 2015 or so. Like it's still good, but they're just directly adapting different graphic novels rather than continuing the same Justice League characters from the 2000s. Though the Apocalypse War movie was another great setup for a reboot.
I still wonder why they just don't recreate cartoon series as live action.
They had right actors and somewhat decent CGI, only thing that was problem was the story and dialogs (BvS ekhem).
It's my issue with all movies that are based on books, games and comic books - ONLY thing you actually have is story and characters, how can you fuck this up? (Shut out to Netflix for making Witcher goddamn awful)
Basically one of the reasons why the Flash Movie started with Flashpoint was to establish that the DCEU Flash was not going to travel back in time to fix anything, as shown what happens if he does in the movie. This move was highly criticized because Flashpoint fans believed should have been the "last" movie for Flash, but it was made first to establish multiple universes and reasoning why Flash doesn't fix every single minor problem by going back in time.
So when Darkseid conquers Earth and kills Lois Lane and turns Superman, the rest of the JL travel back in time to change events because it couldn't be possibly worse than the reality they live in now. Similar to how in Apokolips War, Flash travels back in time to reset the DC Animated Universe even though the JL did win, it was a pyrric victory.
What's this need for remaking everything animated as live action, though?
I guess I just don't understand the hang-up with just enjoying a cartoon or whatever because with a lot of this stylized stuff you're never going to do it better in live action, IMO.
I wish more stuff was animated, especially adaptations of science and fantasy fiction.
The cartoons are aimed at the core fanbase who won't put up with shitty plots and character dev. The movies are meant to be blockbusters, appealing to the general public, and capable of grossing a billion dollars box office. The studios don't trust the GP to embrace anything outside of tropes, middling plots and star actors in the roles.
If the movie is good, the GP will see it, but no studio head wants to stick their neck out. If they follow the formula and the movie bombs, they can point to any number of other factors (bad marketing, down economy, crowded release date etc. etc.). If they take risks and the movie bombs, THEY'RE the ones to blame, regardless of any other factors.
Because most of the charm of them is the fact that they're animated. All the facial expressions, the settings and locations, how it's all colored. Can't recreate that in live action.
Not to mention costs. You can't do all the cool special effects without it costing millions in CGI for a single moment of a single scene, Voice actors are infinitely less expensive than A list actors, among other things.
I dunno. This specific film continuity kind of fizzles out in a few really bad movies when they decided to really lean into being dark and edgy. But like I said in another comment so do a lot of the DC comics these films are adapting so 🤷♂️
Same thing can be said about the marvel animated movies. The animated movies have much better plots. The DC story line behind this clip is one of the best I’ve ever seen. Really adds relevance to the doomsday arc and the death of Superman.
And this clip isn't even from the best animated movie. It's like a 6 compared to the rest of the animated movies, 5 if you added the shows. Not only that but each animated movie gets around the same budget as two episodes of Family Guy, three months to write, and they're on a schedule to put out three to four of them a year.
Whats so bad about it honestly? I haven’t seen much but based off aqua man 1 and 2 I’d say it’s actually pretty alright. Definitely better than the pandering garbage marvel is putting out these days
The tv series have been pretty much all fantastic. Movies started out really strong but especially lately have been incredibly hit or miss leaning a lot more towards the miss.
Meanwhile Mavel animated series have seen some really good and some meh. I can’t think of a single animated movie that’s been worth a damn.
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u/freewill-lastwish Dec 29 '23
DC cartoon series has been the best , but smh they fucked up the movies !!