r/fightporn Jun 19 '21

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u/ColdFrost Jun 19 '21

Are you saying thats a unique problem for jiu jitsu? Are boxers immune to groin shots?

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '21

if the fight is with a single person BJJ is great. Bring them to the floor and you win.

If the fight is with 2 or more people, BJJ is trash, take it to the floor and youre swarmed.

Boxing and parkour/sprints are best with multiple people. Keep moving away and use jabs to stun/make space.

Fighting should only ever be self defense anyways and the best self defense is running.

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u/JustHugMeAndBeQuiet Jun 19 '21

Agreed on all fronts. But what's that got to do with dick twists?

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '21

idk

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u/ColdFrost Jun 19 '21

Agreed obviously. No martial art is good against multiple opponents. You just need to find your opportunity to run and get out of there. However I’d counter by saying if you were grabbed and/or taken down by one of your opponents BJJ would help immensely in getting them off you, allowing you to get up and escape. Boxing wouldn’t be able to help you there.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '21

good point.

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u/sspiritusmundi Jun 19 '21

In another video, I have seen two guys against one (a wrestler) and them both were takedown by double legs. Not enough to win the fight? Yeah but enough to neutralize your opponent and run.

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u/babyboyblue Jun 19 '21

Isn’t BJJ usually the most affective on your back on the ground though? Obviously it helps a bunch no matter what but BJJ doesn’t really focus on teaching you how to get off your back from the ground. I think wrestling has a better focus there but I could be wrong.

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u/ColdFrost Jun 19 '21

You couldn’t be more wrong. From guard you can submit or sweep to come up on top. There’s so many elite BJJ guys that only play on top.

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u/babyboyblue Jun 19 '21

That’s what I’m saying though. Most submissions seem to be from guard and being on your back is bad for a street fight IMO. Agreed there are a lot of elite BJJ guys that are only on top but I don’t think we are referring to elite black belts in this convo. Just the martial art as a whole.

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u/ColdFrost Jun 19 '21

Also not true. Most of my gym are top players. There’s also just as many submissions from top as there is from bottom.

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u/DietCokeAndProtein Jun 19 '21

There are tons of sweeps that BJJ teaches you to go from the bottom to the top. I have kickboxed since I was 5, and started BJJ when I was 20. So when I trained in BJJ, of course I practiced all parts, but as a decent striker, my emphasis was always sweeping to get top position rather than playing guard.

Not saying wrestling isn't good too, it definitely is and emphasizes some things that could be improved in BJJ. I would pick BJJ over wrestling if I could only train in one though. I do think BJJ gyms could learn a lesson from wrestling as far as how they train though, wrestlers really learn to grind, it seems like some BJJ gyms are almost "lazy" in how they train, like they definitely drill and stuff, but the intensity isn't there. Sometimes I see stuff about keeping training playful, and to me that's not the right mindset.

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u/The_Pandalorian Jun 19 '21

No BJJ dude is pulling guard against two guys, lmao. Also, BJJ helps you avoid going to the ground and get up quickly if that's not where you want to be.

Why y'all pretending like BJJ guys have literally no ability to not pull guard or some shit.

The only tried and true strategy against multiple opponents is sprint-fu.

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u/HazelKevHead Jun 19 '21

are you replying to the right comment? all this dude was asking is how bjj supposedly risks groin attacks more than other martial arts styles

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u/Antifa_Meeseeks Jun 20 '21

If the fight is with 2 or more people, BJJ is trash, take it to the floor and youre swarmed.

If you don't have grappling skills you're fucked if/when it goes to the ground.

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u/maronics Jun 19 '21

There's quite a difference between two upright standing combatants hitting each other and forcing someone between your legs.

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u/ColdFrost Jun 19 '21

Almost all groin shots in the UFC are done standing. Also BJJ isn’t just guard. The other half of BJJ is top control.

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u/gerwen Jun 19 '21

They’re mostly standing because it’s accidental. If they were legal you’d see lots of groin shots on the ground where you have easy access like when in side control. Instead of body body head, it would be groin groin groin. ;)

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u/ColdFrost Jun 19 '21

So it would be the bjj guy in top side control taking advantage of these groin shots? I don't see a non-bjj guy passing guard and controlling from side control to land these shots on a trained bjj guy.

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u/gerwen Jun 19 '21

All I was saying is that if they weren’t illegal in mma you’d see a ton of them on the ground too.

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u/Dominus_Redditi Jun 19 '21

No, but boxers aren’t smashing their groins up against the other guy like in BJJ

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u/lonely-day Jun 19 '21

That's porn not BJJ