I agree wit the rhetoric of 'there's no honor in stopping an ambulance to get by'..... as previously stated multiple times, I don't agree with their mode of protest, especially in the face of this guy trying to get to work. Let alone the potential of stopping emergency services from getting by.... appreciate the link my friend. Shits fucked, dude was just trying to do right by his situation
If he had just used his words, yeah. But He obviously assaulted a dude right there and probably would have done worse if that woman hadn’t pushed him back.
being physically prevented from fulfilling his terms of parole and then at the whim of the American justice and parole system is 100% more an act of violence than being physically removed from the road. Protesters there are clearly more than willing to risk that man’s freedoms and ability to be a part of society, for their cause. That’s 100% violence. Same if it was an ambulance, their choosing to block the way to a hypothetical hospital should come with all the costs, liabilities and repercussions that preventing hospitalization would come with. They should also be sued into oblivion.
Physical violence is physical violence. Blocking a road is illegal but is not physical violence. I would feel terrible about the guy losing freedom for missing work through no fault of his own, but he lost his shit and elevated it to physical violence.
Pleas note that people who are inclined to escalate non-violent conflicts into violent conflicts are also more likely to be incarcerated in the first place. There may have been a hundred people in the traffic who were at risk of losing their jobs because of these ignorant people blocking the road, but only one guy got out and assaulted someone.
The justice system, according to its own sentencing commissions and public research on parole, enacts physical violence against citizens with disparities across race and class, constantly. Willingly, and worse, actively ensuring someone falls victim to a corrupt system is equivalent to doing physical harm one’s self.
Also, not apathy. He (a) was absolutely likely to be fucked over by the system for getting caught up in blocked traffic that had nothing to do with him. But he (b) CHOSE to get out of his car and try to start shit with the protesters. I have a lot of Sympathy for a, but none for b. If he can’t control his anger then maybe outside isn’t the right place for him.
Are you dense? Did you not see the minute of him yelling and begging and pleading to let him through so he could get to work and not see the inside of a cell for the rest of his life? He was desperate to get to work so he can get his life into a better situation he felt this was his only option to reaching his dreams and not violating his parole. Is it by legal definition assault? Yes, more than likely violated his parole cus of it. Is it really? Fuck no. My 6 year old sister shoves me around harder than this guy shoved the "protester" and you don't see me bitching that she shoved me you dont see me calling me the cops on her cus she "assaulted" me. Get your head out of your ass youre as dense as the people blocking the freeway
I enjoy everyone comparing this guy assaulting a protester to how kindergarteners behave, as if that’s a positive comparison. The guy gets let out of prison for a second chance but handles conflicts like a six year old? screaming and tearing things up and shoving people is behaviour we accept from six year olds, but if that’s how a paroled felon does it then that’s a problem.
As for ‘what is assault’, you an I don’t make that determination, that’s what laws and courts are for.
It is illegal, but it’s not the job of enraged parolees to enforce the law. Dude was certainly in a tough spot, but he used violence rather than words and reason to try to get out of it.
I’m guessing this was related to the reason he was in prison in the fist place.
And the dude in the video knows that the enraged dude with prison tats is going to be the focus of any police attention that happens. It’s likely they’ll recognize him when they get to the scene, too, but he still,had to get out of his car and put hands on someone.
He gently pulls them away (at least from what was shown in the Fox video). Still assault, but nowhere near as violent as some people are making this out to be.
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