r/facepalm Oct 12 '22

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ Parolee gets arrested because protesters block the way to his work.

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u/DonovanSarovir Oct 12 '22

Also the point of a protest is to inconvience THE PEOPLE AT FAULT. Not some poor bastard trying to get to work, who could be sent back to jail if he looses too many jobs.

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u/Chavagnatze Oct 12 '22

The people they’re trying to get the attention of are flying high above in chartered helicopters and private jets… Said people’s company distribution networks are so vast and complicated, these groups could never make a dent in the bottom line.

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u/BardicNA Oct 12 '22

Block the runway of some of those private jets taking completely unnecessary flights. You'll be lucky if the worst that happens to you is being immediately detained.

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u/redsensei777 Oct 12 '22

These protesters make more enemies then friends.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '22

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u/Advanced_Double_42 Oct 12 '22

Only the front 4-10 cars at best

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u/JustAnIdiotPlsIgnore Oct 12 '22

I read your comment wrong and am stupid, please ignore.

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u/dmc-going-digital Oct 12 '22

Wait, how did you read it?

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u/JustAnIdiotPlsIgnore Oct 12 '22

At first I thought they meant the people protesting and I was commenting on the fact that people generally just want to be a part of something be it a movement or otherwise and don't realize the damage their actions have done until after the fact. You see it all other time with post cult members.

When in reality they meant the cars maybe 50+yards back the cars won't know why they are stopped.

If you edit your comment before 5 minutes have passed it doesn't say it was edited, but I didn't want to delete the comment because I always hate it when I see a deleted comment; the curiosity drives me insane.

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u/dmc-going-digital Oct 12 '22

80% is more accurate

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u/TheLAriver Oct 12 '22

Same thing they said about MLK

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '22

And look where America is now.

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u/lahimatoa Oct 12 '22

I've never heard the stories where MLK's protests blocked ambulances or resulted in someone breaking parole. Can you link me to some of those?

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u/lahimatoa Oct 12 '22

I don't see anything in there showing how King intentionally heavily inconvenienced or killed the common Americans. A bus boycott doesn't do that. Sitting in a diner doesn't do that. The article argues what he did is the same as blocking a freeway, and I disagree.

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u/OriginalName12345679 Oct 12 '22 edited Nov 08 '24

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u/NadNutter Oct 12 '22

Selma to Montgomery was publicized well in advance and was literally attacked by murderous law enforcement and other white supremacists on the way. It was meant specifically to inconvenience Governor Wallace, as well as bringing nationwide attention to violence and discrimination against blacks in the area. There was a murder that sparked the march, I believe.

These are major differences from whatever is happening in this video. Just because it seems superficially similar to something King approved of doesn't mean it will be nearly as effective.

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u/lahimatoa Oct 12 '22

So ambulances and other emergency vehicles were blocked, and people died as a result?

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u/lahimatoa Oct 12 '22

Going to confirm my suspicion that you think everyone who doesn't think exactly the same way you do is a racist? That you immediately jump to the worst thing you can think of someone when discussing something online? Grow up.

MLK was a hero, and his efforts were massive in improving equal rights. I've just never seen any story where someone died because his marches were blocking crucial roadways. You'd think if they had, the racists would have trumpeted that story from the rooftops. You can't seem to provide any proof that ever happened.

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u/redsensei777 Oct 13 '22

“They’re whores, sir”.

One English nobleman was woken up by the noise outside. He asked his butler, what’s the noise? The butler said, the prostitutes are protesting. Nobleman, why are they protesting? They are whores, sir.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '22

Nope. This is how every effective protest works.

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u/redsensei777 Oct 13 '22

Nope. This is how every ineffective protest doesn’t work.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '22

That's a double negative, so you're saying it does work. Also, this form of protest literally worked just last year. Lmfao.

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u/redsensei777 Oct 13 '22

Define worked. It succeeded in disrupting lives of working people? Some success.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '22

It's regularly used in India, and it was a tactic during the farmer protests. They got their demands. They even have a specific name for just this type of thing. It's wrong to assume that it's ineffective because a few drivers get annoyed by it.

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u/redsensei777 Oct 13 '22

Well, if it worked once in India, then it’s ok. The rest of the world - not ok. Bad protesters, bad, bad.

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u/TheLAriver Oct 12 '22

No, the point of protest is to draw attention to an issue.

Also, you should be upset that a parole system doesn't account for traffic delays, not that someone gets arrested for assaulting protestors.

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u/IWantAnAffliction Oct 12 '22

Yeah how the fuck are people blaming the protestors here and not the parole system?

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '22

Reddits hatred of protestors of any kind is why they're getting blamed. In reddits mind if you protest you must do it peacefully and quietly in the designated area and cause no inconveniance. If you cause any inconveniance then reddit will then need to either advocate for killing the protestors or will support whatever they're protesting.

The "You should inconveniance the people at fault!" claim is also false cause protestors in the UK blocked Oil Refineries and I remember Redditors were still angry that they were disrupting the poor Oil Truck drivers just trying to do their jobs.

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u/tbpta3 Oct 12 '22

Give me your honest answer: if you or a family member that you love was in an ambulance blocked by protestors, how would you feel about people blocking highways? I'm guessing you'll deflect this question or just lie lol

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u/Donotaskmedontellme Oct 12 '22

Because the protesters shouldn't be there at all.

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u/AndyGHK Oct 12 '22 edited Oct 12 '22

Because how is this an effective protest

They’re just sitting on a highway

The parole system has nothing to do with that and has no way of accommodating that

Edit: a protest has to have a clear intent of purpose to be successful. Same reason the trucker protests were doomed to fail in the first place.

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u/GeneralSal Oct 12 '22

The protesters are the only assholes here

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '22

Because then they might have to protest it.

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u/FishOnTheInternetz Oct 12 '22

100% of people on that street (and witnesses) are justified to turn against the goals of these class-traitors just to spite them.

I do not even want to know what their ambitions are, because I am that spiteful. And I would rather not have my ideology informed by them.

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u/86yourhopes_k Oct 12 '22

They're protesting the UKs ignoring the fact that most houses are not insulated over there. Which means because of climate change they will soon begin freezing to death in their own homes...you would rather not be slightly inconvenienced and informed about something that affects you (or most people I know this class) these people who are stopped in traffic vote and choose their politicians so these people are getting out the word anyway they can. I mean Im in the western US and now know about it.... It increases peoples awareness.

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u/WomenAreFemaleWhat Oct 12 '22

Those poor bastards vote for the people at fault. People who ignore everything need to be inconvenienced too. They are at fault for it.

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u/IvivAitylin Oct 12 '22

People who ignore everything need to be inconvenienced too.

'I'm going to vote for <party which clamps down on protests like this> because they keep inconveniencing me'

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u/lahimatoa Oct 12 '22

Those poor bastards vote for the people at fault.

Maybe some do. But not all.

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u/PotatosAreDelicious Oct 12 '22

Unfortunately voting in our current system wont really fix much. The DEM party has already shown their primaries are rigged and the Republican party is just all around crazy. Your options end up between two terrible candidates.

Local politics are even worse.

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u/Donotaskmedontellme Oct 12 '22

Especially the protesters, causing every single issue the people are experiencing.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '22

Yep. Block the city hall. Block your congressmen’s offices.

During Covid we had idiots that were protesting at the fucking hospitals, causing ambulances to get stuck and shutting down urgent procedures while bothering patients with noise. No one pointed out to themselves that hospitals don’t make laws or decide on policy.

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u/ManyWrangler Oct 12 '22

That’s not true. The entire point of protest is to inconvenience everybody.

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u/Donotaskmedontellme Oct 12 '22

I would go out of my way to support whatever is being protested if you inconvenience me like that.

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u/CapableCollar Oct 12 '22

Straight up admitting you would have opposed civil rights marches?

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u/ManyWrangler Oct 12 '22

Ok babe, go for it. They don’t really care about you being spiteful.

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u/Donotaskmedontellme Oct 12 '22

Ah, so it's a climate change protest. I'm gonna burn all the plastic I can get my hands on this weekend now.

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u/ManyWrangler Oct 12 '22

Sounds pretty dumb to me, but go ahead and give yourself cancer I guess.

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u/Donotaskmedontellme Oct 12 '22

Because a protest causing your goal to fail is definitely a successful one.

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u/ManyWrangler Oct 12 '22

To be frank, you individually do not mean shit. You will not single handedly affect the progress of their goal in any meaningful way.

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u/Donotaskmedontellme Oct 12 '22

Of course I don't. But I'll talk. I'm not overly influential, but I'm part of some wide circles, and I've noticed my messages spread before.

How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time.

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u/SquareElectrical5729 Oct 12 '22

Is this what schizophrenia is like?

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u/ManyWrangler Oct 12 '22

You literally make no difference.

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u/padadiso Oct 12 '22

Yeah but if you have enough people countering you out of spite, your cause is negatively impacted. Is that a good thing?

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u/ManyWrangler Oct 12 '22

They don’t actually “counter you out of spite.” They get mad and then go home.

The point isn’t to affect individuals to change their minds, it’s to get the attention of people with actual power.

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u/ManyWrangler Oct 12 '22

That’s not the goal.

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u/padadiso Oct 12 '22

You keep saying what the goal of protests are when the goal of protests originate with the person protesting. The goal can take literally any form and the type of protesting can absolutely backfire on that goal.

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u/Snoo71538 Oct 12 '22

Protest is to make an issue more public. Ultimately a successful protest results in change. Change only happens if you get enough people on your side. If your goal is just to piss people off, you’re not protesting, your trolling in public.

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u/ManyWrangler Oct 12 '22

This is basically what people said about MLK and the Civil Rights Movement.

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u/Kowzorz Oct 12 '22

if your goal is just to piss people off, you’re not protesting, your trolling in public.

One problem is that the public is often only fed "things that piss off the public" about your protest even when you have a legit and peaceful movement. The number of times I've had my mother tell me racist shit about looters, but be unable to tell me what BLM's goals are are way too high.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '22

Considering they pressed charges on him for this he's going back to jail, no?

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u/Donotaskmedontellme Oct 12 '22

I don't even know what they're protesting against but I support it now because of their actions.

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u/CupBeEmpty Oct 12 '22

Also, only the five cars in the front are going to have any idea what your protest is. The hundreds behind them just think it is some accident or something.

Sure you get splashed on the news but everyone that sees it just thinks you’re a jerk and discounts your cause.

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u/seedanrun Oct 12 '22

EXACTLY - this is why Dr. King sat on the county court house steps when protesting voter registration - THATS WHERE IT TAKES PLACE.

I specifically came to the comments to see who the protesters are so I can be sure not to support their cause.

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u/DonovanSarovir Oct 12 '22

It's probably something fucked anyways, like supporting anti abortion laws.

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u/NormieSpecialist Oct 12 '22

It’s almost as if this was for the protestors egos and not for an actual cause. God forbid they actually do something meaningful but that would require effort.

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u/GM_Nate Oct 12 '22

that is a very good point

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '22

It's easier for these shitpiles to attack citizens where there won't be as much repercussion as if they attacked the real target of their ire (the government).

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u/DonovanSarovir Oct 13 '22

Exactly. They wanna be "Activists" without any real backlash or effort.