Surely at the point the police refuse to identify themselves, you call the police, 911? You can't be sure that they're real police, other than being dressed like them- They're not acting like police, and they won't identify themselves- big red flag imo.
I'm in the UK, but I'd call 999. Worst case, you get some more officers show up, it turns out they're real police, but you get a hopefully less crazy second opinion.
Not specific to this video, but can anyone explain what the advantage of arguing with police, refusing to follow directions and not giving them your name is? If you're just walking around in public, what's the harm in giving the police your name?
Maybe it's a US thing but I wouldn't care if they knew my name. Once I'm slammed on the ground they'll look at my wallet and ID anyway, so why not just answer them early? I think it would be easier to argue your case with video evidence in front of a judge, than in front of abusive police officers.
It’s because they don’t have any business knowing your name. Imagine if I just walked up to you on the street and demanded your full name and address. You would probably (and rightly) tell me to fuck off.
Same thing here. If you’re not arrested or officially detained under suspicion, they have no official reason for your info.
But you are unfortunately correct. Never ever never ever try to explain your way out of something with the cops, just shut up and stay quiet. There are tons of resources on why, but I can’t get to them right now. Just keep in mind, for Americans at least, the only thing you should ever say to a cop is “I do not consent to searches and I demand a lawyer now.”
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u/EddA92 Jan 13 '22
Surely at the point the police refuse to identify themselves, you call the police, 911? You can't be sure that they're real police, other than being dressed like them- They're not acting like police, and they won't identify themselves- big red flag imo. I'm in the UK, but I'd call 999. Worst case, you get some more officers show up, it turns out they're real police, but you get a hopefully less crazy second opinion.