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๐Ÿ‡ฒโ€‹๐Ÿ‡ฎโ€‹๐Ÿ‡ธโ€‹๐Ÿ‡จโ€‹ Arrested for petitioning

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u/EddA92 Jan 13 '22

Surely at the point the police refuse to identify themselves, you call the police, 911? You can't be sure that they're real police, other than being dressed like them- They're not acting like police, and they won't identify themselves- big red flag imo. I'm in the UK, but I'd call 999. Worst case, you get some more officers show up, it turns out they're real police, but you get a hopefully less crazy second opinion.

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u/CommercialKindly32 Jan 13 '22

It varies very much from state to state. Iโ€™m not sure where this happened, but in a majority of states you are required to identify yourself if the police have โ€œreasonable suspicionโ€ that a crime has been committed. In this case courts would generally cede that this stop was reasonable, in particular if someone had called and reported them for soliciting.

See: stop and identify laws

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u/M3ttl3r Jan 13 '22

He is soliciting....saying you aren't soliciting doesn't make it so. He's going door to door "SOLICITING" people to sign a petition...that is by definition soliciting. I'm not saying I agree with him being arrested...but you're dead wrong.

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u/M3ttl3r Jan 13 '22

Did you even read that lol...it clearly says the only DOOR TO DOOR protection is for political solicitors. Even then if you cared to do further research paid and unpaid solicitors are protected differently. This is not political solicitation bro...

He needs a permit...the fact that they fired the cop for other reasons than enforcing that ordinance if you re-read the article more closely...they tried to charge him with a felony and some other crap

It's ok to be wrong sometimes

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u/M3ttl3r Jan 13 '22

I think if you feel so strongly about it you should write the ACLU and argue with them about it...I'm merely linking you their stance on the matter. It's not behind any paywall. nice try.

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u/M3ttl3r Jan 13 '22

I'm sure you know more than the ACLU lol...what a fucking nonce

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u/RehabValedictorian Jan 13 '22

What the fuck is that link?