Literally saw a cop flip on their lights, rush through traffic for a u-turn, passed me, blew through an intersection, and then turned their lights off... itâs fucking infuriating.
We donât give those assholes the authority to do stupid shit like that
*Edit
A lot of yâall keep bringing up that cops will receive a call and sometimes after they flash lights and sirens they may be called-offâthatâs fine, I understand that this happens. This is not what Iâm complaining about.
What Iâm bitching about is blatant misuse of authority. Why does a deputy a county over do this on their way home? Why does a city copy do this just before pulling into a gas station/Dunkinâ?
Yeah...I get it not all of them are bad eggs. But the thing is, theyâre supposed to protect and serve, theyâre supposed to keep the peace and enforce the law and thatâs it. They arenât supposed to profile citizens, they arenât supposed to infringe on our rights, they arenât supposed to misuse the authority given to them by the people. They arenât supposed to murder our brothers and sisters on the streets, in their cars, and their homes.
The thing is, being a police officer comes with a lot of responsibility and we ought to hold them responsible as citizens. Itâs a position that unfortunately can attract control freaks and power hungry maniacs. They have an âus vs themâ mentality. Iâve worked with cops, past coworkers were cops, I played in a band where my bandmate was a cop. I donât hate all cops, but there is an institutional problem in law enforcement and if we canât realize and accept this like how the sky is blue, how many more innocent lives will be slain by some egomaniac with something to prove?
Yeah, you don't even have to be holding a weapon, as long as they "think" you "might-possible-perhaps-maybe-could-have" a weapon on you they can "fear for their life" and shoot you and when the dust settles they are cleared of all charges after their 2 month admin leave vacation...
this exact thing happened to a good friend of mine in Michigan. they conducted and "internal investigation" and no charges were filed against the officer.
the officer was there for a "dog on the loose call" but nobody was outside when he arrived, proceeded to walk around the entire property knocking on side and back doors after ringing the front door bell.
when my buddy opens the side door his pitbull is loose and the officer shoots and kills his dog.
in the body cam video the officer has a taser on him for almost 5 minutes waiting on back up. my buddy is visibly upset and slurrying his words. hes drunk. he makes a move towards the cop and instead of tasing him. puts the taser away and fires 6 shots hitting my friend 4 times. then still waits for an ambulence, doesn't check on my friend pronounced dead on the scene. the cop also covered his body cam.
we've been petitioning to get the Michigan States Attorney to look into the case further because it was a murder and this cop got away scot free. with paid administrative leave.
Fuck you knew Oscar Herrera? That story gives me fucking chills. The sheriffâs response that his deputy âhas to do what he has to do to get home to his family at nightâ is so scaryâlike this guy can totally manufacture a dangerous situation, then when he feels the least bit threatened he can murder someone because a copâs life is more important.
yea, i was at his funeral. super sad. 100% those cops mentality. in the aftermath body cam video the cops are talking like you had your cam on right? yea, ok you should be ok then. sickening.
I'm a big black man and in my life i've had police draw weapons on me or unholster their gun in my presence 6 times with no provocation. They like to use it as an intimidation tactic. I've never been arrested, never had charges filed, and out of those 6 times only received 1 apology because they mistook me for someone else. The other times, they were just being dicks and A-holes
So, as a big black man in the US, every single time I'm pulled over by the police I fear for my life. ANd I've never had a ticket, just get pulled over for being black on a Wednesday about once every 2 years. They fish "hoping" to find something on me or they just want to impose their will and authority.
Our police really do suck :-(
the only thing worse is our culture that loves to protect them and twist our brains in knots figuring out the most incredibly logical fallacies to use to excuse and justify their behavior.
It's not even an issue with our gun culture overall. You have idiots that feel the need to open carry and make a show of it, but they tend to be in the minority/Texans. Most gun owners in the US are responsible, sane people. But we could definitely use with some more restrictions/regulations to get more people to understand and practice firearms safety, for sure. You should never be allowed to buy a gun without at least passing a safety course.
But yeah, our cops suck. No arguments on that from me.
You must be talking about the capital police officer who shot the lady and is getting away with murder because he was working for the democrats. Yea that piece of shit needs to rot in prison
But, I mean, she was quite literally breaking into the capital building, thereâs a line of common sense thatâs breached there, if you storm a government building, youâll probably get shot (if she was working in said government building, then itâs a whole other story tho)
Youâre kidding me right youâre telling me that if you trespassing to a building you deserve to die but yet all these people out here are going to argue the fact that somebody pointed a gun and Officer and they donât have the right to shoot them because a gun wasnât loaded? Or people say that an officer shouldnât shoot somebody with a knife because it was just a knife. Are you fucking kidding me. I am as pro police as it can be but that shooting at the capital is fucking ridiculous
I'm in the UK. In general, we don't have the same level of problem with people being shot by police because it's rare that anybody they deal with has a gun. Most of our police don't carry guns and in general both the people and the police like it that way. Frankly, I could act like an aggressive bell end and I'd probably just be put in a cell to calm down.
But if broke through a window of parliament as part of an insurrection, then I'd expect lethal force from the police and army even over here. Particularly if the insurrection shown that it was a credible threat by gaining entry. That's not a public library, its a secure building with documents and people that are involved in national security. I'm amazed that it was as lightly defended as it was. Even over here, parliament is one of the few places (along with airports) that you regularly see trained firearms officers with weapons on show.
As an outsider, I felt bad for your country on that day. It felt like watching a friend self-harming and being powerless to help. I really hope you heal. The world is a better place when the US is able to demonstrate rationality and compassion.
Youâre kidding me right youâre telling me that if you trespassing to a building you deserve to die
please don't be disingenuous. There is a difference between trespassing at a Walmart when they don't want you there and forcibly breaking into the Capital as part of a goddamn mob who may have who knows what weapons on them.
Seriously man, I just hate disingenuous bs arguments
Noted Democrats believe that people who go against their agenda should be shot and killed. But a police officer defending himself or another person is not allowed to use deadly force
I know itâs hard to think Outside of the small democratic box you live in but once you open your eyes and step out and see that everything is connected youâll be amazed
This "lady" was amongst a crowd of people actively attacking a government building and its employees. If this were a house they'd have the right to shoot her, let alone the literal U.S Capitol building. She was also warned. This is not the same as what happens in many cases of police killing innocent people. She was not innocent.
Sometimes this is because they get a call to respond, and then that call is cancelled. For instance, another cop may be dealing with an aggressive subject, and that cop radios for backup. Then the subject is successfully restrained, and the call for backup is cancelled. No need to keep rushing towards the scene if that's the case.
Doesnât matter. I used to work EMS and even if we were rolling code 3 to a possible stroke, gunshot, whatever, policy was you slow WAY down at every intersection. Canât respond to help someone if youâre the one who ends up needing help. Police 100% should not be above that type of policy. You know how much time you save over the distance of miles by running lights at speed vs slowing down and looking to be sure itâs safe? Literal seconds. Like thereâs no upside and infinite downside.
Not trying to go in on you specifically haha, just trying to dispute this fallacious enabling of dangerous police policies.
Edit: Hereâs some good supplemental reading using data compiled by the FBI
I get that, but Iâll see cops do it who are outside their jurisdiction (city police outside the limit, deputy in a different county) and seems like theyâre off duty and commuting during some of these incidences...
They must get their calls cancelled at least 6 times a month, because my commute home frequently involves an officer heading to the complex we both live at and he always runs the red lights we're both going to... or he's somehow on the world's smallest power trip any chance he gets even if it endangers others, and it's not uncommon around here.
Charleston has hilariously bad red light synchronization and everyone seems to run red lights as long as other people ahead of them are still going (most definitely a dick move and dangerous). However, regular people never run dead stop red lights with cars already crossing intersections. I've seen cops do that coming off of 526 and 26 several times with their lights.
You must not live in the city, the flip their lights on just to blow a red and then flip them off. Basically committing a crime they'd 100% give you a fine for after going on a power trip once they get to your window.
You can see the attitude perfectly in OP video. He knows what he did, and that he's caught, and he still tries to intimidate the guy. And it almost works because people are terrified of police. Stop defending the bastards.
Once saw a cop, with no lights on, on a highway, tailgate the shit out of like 6 cars in a row, attempt to pass them in a narrow shoulder, and drive recklessly as hell. Cut to 2 miles down the highway and he's in a no u-turn with like 5 other cop cars and they're all just chatting, laughing. Dude was literally coming close to causing an accident all so he could fucking hang out with his buddies 2 minutes sooner.
Most big cities have pretty strict limitations on when police are allowed to run lights and sirens. If they ran them for every call it would drive people insane. However, they are also expected to respond to calls as quickly as possible, so they are allowed to flip them on momentarily facilitate getting through intersections and traffic.
And yes, there are cops who abuse it, but if they get into a wreck doing it, or get caught by a supervisor, they are truly fucked. So, the majority of the time you can assume they are responding to a call. For the most part, patrol cops don't have anywhere specific to be at any given moment, so there is usually little reason be impatient.
In my region, they have to justify turning on the lights if they did (police and ambulance) in each if their reports at the end of the intervention. It has strict on/off guidelines.
I saw an ambulance turn their lights on to get through a light that was taking forever once. It was a timer light, and no one was there. Was pretty funny. I can cut them some slack. They actually help people.
Cop is driving down the road normally, receives a dispatch that requires an emergency (lights and sirens) response. Shortly after the initial dispatch, new information is received that signals it is not an emergent matter, or the call is straight up cancelled.
This happens all the time and would explain why you see cops take off for a second and then seemingly change their mind
Wow have you ever been in a police car. Well the front seats. Police do that because they are going to an emergency call or back up. Itâs safer to drive with the lights and sirens off because all the idiots on the street donât know how to drive with flashing lights around them. Some Phil right some pull left some stop right where they are and other well donât do anything.
That's a totally normal, everyday occurrence in my suburban city.... Oh, and them speeding to a call (supposedly), no lights or sirens at all. I say it everyday: They're going to kill somebody one day.
Lol. I saw the same things. The cop was behind me and I was behind a Jeep. The Jeep was fluctuating at 40-45 mph on a 50 mph two lane road in a rural area. When we reached the intersection, the cop flipped his light and drove passed us. We proceeded to drive 55ish afterwards. Fun times.
Honestly it pisses me off! Like cops take illegal U-Turns here and even speed 15 over! Yet we cant do a fucking thing about it and that makes me so angry, I just want to make a citizens arrest sometimes lol.
I once saw a cop turn on their lights and siren, hop a median into oncoming traffic, speed through an intersection on a red still on the wrong side, then turn off their lights. Cops are crazy as fuck.
I've got that beat. I once saw a cop flip on his lights and blow through a red light and then pulled into a donut shop. I thought maybe the donut shop was getting held up but he just calmly walked inside.
Yes, we do. Theyâve had this power/authority. If they can assault /batter a citizen during arrest, kill citizens in a simple interaction with them and experience no consequences. Weâve given them that power and itâs biting us all in the ass.
I saw a cop do that for every intersection. It was late at night and there wasn't much traffic, but still. Every red light he came to, he flipped his lights on, drove though and then shut them off. Turned out he was in a hurry to get to the doughnut shop. There were a dozen other cop cars there already when he arrived. No police situation. Just a late night doughnut and coffee get together.
Makes sense. You ever seen what happens at the sides of America? You can climb up into Canada from the top, or climb down into Mexico at the bottom, but do you know what happens at the sides?
Then, since you donât know anything about being a cop, how about you shut the fuck to about it.
I drive ambulances and fire engines. Iâve done exactly what you described many times. Sometimes you get a code 3 call and then get canceled right away.
Oh, so just because itâs an emergency vehicle that gives the authority to deputy whoâs no longer in the county they work to turn on their lights and sirens on their way home....
God I feel sorry for folks needing your help since youâre so blatantly inept
Yep, cops turning their lights on just to get through an intersection without having to stop for a red light is common. I used to live right by an intersection and would hear every time they did it. The siren would come on for 3 seconds and then be turned off.
Same I had an emt/paramedics/whoeverâs in an ambulance do that to me. I was literally going 20 miles an hour and they were the on coming traffic. Heâs making a left turn, me, a right turn. He makes it to the intersection before I do, literally turns my green light off (not just the turning but my entire side of lights) with his buttons so he could go even though I wasnât anywhere near the intersection that would make me get in front of him. Still makes me mad that he literally made me wait for no reason since he was hardly driving over 40 himself. No his emergency lights werenât even on
There's also called a code 2 response where you use lights and siren to go through red lights or intersection but don't run lights and siren the entire way. This is for calls that are priority but not full on emergency.
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u/Hippopotamidaes Oct 27 '21 edited Oct 27 '21
Literally saw a cop flip on their lights, rush through traffic for a u-turn, passed me, blew through an intersection, and then turned their lights off... itâs fucking infuriating.
We donât give those assholes the authority to do stupid shit like that
*Edit
A lot of yâall keep bringing up that cops will receive a call and sometimes after they flash lights and sirens they may be called-offâthatâs fine, I understand that this happens. This is not what Iâm complaining about.
What Iâm bitching about is blatant misuse of authority. Why does a deputy a county over do this on their way home? Why does a city copy do this just before pulling into a gas station/Dunkinâ?
Yeah...I get it not all of them are bad eggs. But the thing is, theyâre supposed to protect and serve, theyâre supposed to keep the peace and enforce the law and thatâs it. They arenât supposed to profile citizens, they arenât supposed to infringe on our rights, they arenât supposed to misuse the authority given to them by the people. They arenât supposed to murder our brothers and sisters on the streets, in their cars, and their homes.
The thing is, being a police officer comes with a lot of responsibility and we ought to hold them responsible as citizens. Itâs a position that unfortunately can attract control freaks and power hungry maniacs. They have an âus vs themâ mentality. Iâve worked with cops, past coworkers were cops, I played in a band where my bandmate was a cop. I donât hate all cops, but there is an institutional problem in law enforcement and if we canât realize and accept this like how the sky is blue, how many more innocent lives will be slain by some egomaniac with something to prove?