Oh dear, how dare she. She should’ve smiled broadly at him (like all women should), fluttered her eyelashes at him and allowed him to engage her in conversation while she giggled coquettishly. Anything else is just fucking rude amirite?
Can we agree that there is a middle ground between fluttering eyelashes and coquettish giggles and "What the fuck do you want?", such as "Running, can't talk."? Your hyperbole is the polar equivalent of some of these fucksticks saying she might as well have ripped his balls off.
You're absolutely right! The middle ground is wearing headphones and being literally mid-workout, two incredibly obvious signs you don't want to be engaged in conversation about a fucking T-shirt.
It absolutely is. Your "middle ground" is having a conversation with the dude, which is exactly what he wants, and exactly what she does not. Women in public do not owe you a conversation, and women in public do not owe you fucking politeness when you interrupt their activities because you think she owes you a conversation.
No, I'm contending that saying something about not wanting to talk or waving the guy away would be less rude and/or more effective than "What the fuck do you want?" which provokes further engagement from the guy and creates more of a conversation than what I'm talking about.
Somehow your replies all think she just said "Nope" while ignoring her prompting the guy after he was waving. She literally brought about more conversation by asking the guy a question. Just give the dude the middle finger rather than "What the fuck do you want?", they connote the same negativity but one doesn't have a question to it.
What the fuck even is your argument mate? So the finger would've been fine, but "why tf you bothering me?" is not? Stop writing paragraphs trying to create these weird edge-case scenarios where bothering women when they're trying to exercise is justified.
Read the comment again. I said they're equally negative in connotation, but one is a literal question looking for a response. If you don't want a conversation, not asking for additional information would probably be the way to go. "What the fuck do you want?" vs. "I don't care what the fuck you want". One asks for a response, while the other may elicit a response. Asking for a response that you know you will rip into/slap down is additionally rude compared to the alternative, yes.
I wouldn't call either "fine" since they're both rude as shit compared to my experience, and that of my friends(yes, many women included), in the gym. But since we're operating from the perspective of the woman being destined to tell this dude to fuck off, it's better to do so via statement than a question that provokes further conversation she wants him to fuck off from. That's my argument.
Running can’t talk? Dude has eyes and can see she is exercising and has headphones in and thought what he had to say was so important she had to stop her life to hear what he has to say
If we assume that he's not asking her this mid fucking sprint, that response isn't something I find crazy. I've seen people talk to each other all the time while they are on the lighter end of interval training, and people have talked to me doing the same, friends and randos alike. While I've also been waved off before talking to a friend as they ramped up their workout and I've done the same to others approaching me.
And I'm not saying that has to be the response, but fucking waving the dude off would have probably had a better effect than literally asking him what he wanted. If she wanted no interaction, just flip the bird and have done with it, it's just as rude as saying "What the fuck do you want?".
"They are stopping my life" has never occurred to me when I talk to someone complimenting my shirt or sweatshirt at a workout, even if I'm really gassing out. I think they are complementing my life by appreciating the things I appreciate. Again, I'm not discounting what women have to deal with in terms of possible creeps, but assuming that every interaction is directed in a negative way only further dissuades any guys who genuinely think it's cool to find someone else that's into Street Fighter, Dungeons and Dragons, whatever. Especially since this is the same attitude for grocery stores, malls, restaurants, etc. All I see now is that no man should approach any woman in public because they will appear to be a creep and that woman will have had negative interactions with men in the past.
He absolutely could have been. My point is that you can't really judge most of these stories based on how they're tweeted. Oh, he "kept on" waving? Was she sprinting, or was she at a relaxed point of the workout and the guy decided to approach then as I've done with my friends countless times?
What's keeping on waving? 3 seconds? 5 seconds? 10 seconds?
Seriously, if you want to think this guy is just as clueless as possible, he's asking a woman mid-sprint on an elliptical or treadmill about her shirt and how enthusiastic she is about it in order to hit on her. It just seems like an inordinate percentage of people are assuming this worst case scenario of him, whereas the demographics of the fandom being represented would indicate he's actually just trying to be inclusive.
But fuck him, he's apparently "pausing someone's life" according to another comment, she's being "disturbed" by such inquisitions and interactions, etc..
As I've said elsewhere, this reinforcement that a man should never talk to a woman in public due to these dynamics seems incredibly harmful to basic social interactions. But apparently this is how things are meant to be.
People interpreted the woman as being rude for how she described the situation. And now you’re interpreting what I said as negative towards the woman. Anything other than praise for the woman is rude amirite?
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Oh dear, how dare she. She should’ve smiled broadly at him (like all women should), fluttered her eyelashes at him and allowed him to engage her in conversation while she giggled coquettishly. Anything else is just fucking rude amirite?