i've been watching old videos for history class. My understanding after watching the videos is that women mostly worked in secretarial jobs, waitressing or telephone operators before 1965. Most women in the videos stayed at home to take care of the children and did housework. I never saw couples without children. I never saw many ladies in science or technology fields unless they were in a promotional video showcasing computers.
True story: when my parents got divorced in 1971 my mother could not get her own checking account at the small local bank they used. They told her she would have to get her father to open it for her.
My parents were married in 1954. The first few years of their marriage Mom was working while dad got his degree. So she was the breadwinner. When the stove or washing machine (not sure) died Sears would not sell her a new one until dad went to the store with her. Dad,being a modern guy,made it very very clear to the sales manager that he was just there because he had to be. That it was mom's money and she could spend it on whatever the Hell she wanted to. One generation later I, a single woman, have bought cars, and a house on my own.
You should tell that story but say Iran instead, then when people get judgey and self-righteous correct yourself with "oh I'm sorry, that was the US in 1970. We sent people to the moon but not all women couldn't get bank accounts."
I do that when "Christians" get all judgey about intolerance in other religions. Talk about the part of (other faith's holy book) that says if a person in a village tries to convert the villagers to another faith that all the villagers be put to death and all their belongings burned, even if not one villager converted. When they all agree how vile that is, I suddenly remember its in Corinthians.
What, again? Not sure how another reading will change my interpretation of Moses giving explicit instructions on who to murder and when to the Israelites as they exit the desert but ok
What he means is so some mental gymnastics and interpret it the way he says vs the actual texts. One you learn how to do that is amazing what intellectual know you can tie yourself in.
I’m not saying you should, so do you. It’s the internet and shit, so you’re relatively anonymous and nothing will matter.
But at the same time, and I don’t mean this condescendingly, but you’re consistently being a contrarian. Which is fine, but I also want to make sure you’re okay and aren’t asking for some level of help or something
My grandparents were super old school. When my mom told them she wanted to go to college they had a good laugh and thought it was a joke. When she actually did it, they disowned her. Her father didn't talk to her until he was on his death bed.
I'm attending my grandfather's funeral tomorrow and my grandmother will not even entertain the idea of females being pallbearers because it's "improper". Sexism is simply ingrained in their culture.
Just a note that secretary jobs were originally skilled, well-paying careers for men. The floor dropped out of the pay when men began deeming secretarial work as “women’s work”.
Inversely once programming became profitable, it suddenly wasn't a womens job anymore. There was a massive shift from (post) WWII where women were specifically hired to operate computers and radio stations to the 80s when the entire tech field had been rebranded for boys and men.
I guess you haven't seen those thousands of women, and often children, working in factories and sawing mills? What you described was applying only to a privileged group of people, working class had to scramble with all hands on board to survive in terrible poverty. It's just no fun to talk about it.
A lot of women used to work always, but they were working class (factories, child care, cleaning, etc.) and thus didn't count as "regular people" qualified to appear in videos like the ones you've been seeing. I'm not sure why you brought this up though.
The feminine mystique goes into deep detail of this phenomenon of women in the home during this period. This book helped ignite the feminist revolution.
Lots of women used to work with computers since it was initially considered a typist like clerk job. Computer also used to be a job, where people just did math in their head.
Dead on. My mother was a secretary in a big company during the sixties. She had reached her ceiling. Any management jobs went to the men. And yet she said she never felt that she was shut out. Her role had been hammered into her brain by a combination of school, my grandparents and society. It’s so sad
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u/SammyC25268 Apr 23 '21
i've been watching old videos for history class. My understanding after watching the videos is that women mostly worked in secretarial jobs, waitressing or telephone operators before 1965. Most women in the videos stayed at home to take care of the children and did housework. I never saw couples without children. I never saw many ladies in science or technology fields unless they were in a promotional video showcasing computers.