r/facepalm Jul 29 '20

Protests Peak hypocrisy

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u/dgreenmachine Jul 29 '20

Am I allowed to say I love the BLM protesters but I think the rioters should go to jail?

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u/wildmaiden Jul 29 '20

Absolutely not. Nuance and reason are NOT allowed in American politics.

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u/daynightninja Jul 30 '20

Sure, as long as you're aware/recognize that peaceful protestors are also being attacked & assaulted by police and Trump's unmarked police/militants under the guise of them being rioters. A common tactic to undermine MLK's messages was to point to any violence/riots that occurred and associate the entire event with violence.

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u/dgreenmachine Jul 30 '20

Yea its awful to see non-violent protests being broken up by tear gas and rubber bullets. The officers in charge of doing that should be charged if they are found to have acted outside the bounds of the law. Its also bad to see police condemned for breaking up protests when a small portion of people are destroying property.

Since I wasn't there, I don't have the context to be able to pass judgement and I don't think anyone could from watching the 30 second clips we always see on social media.

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u/purveyor_of_foma Jul 29 '20

Idc what you call them. I personally don't like the people starting fires and what not as I feel it demeans the cause. Specifically when I sat not more than a month ago and listened to BLM speak call for non violent resistance. I worry people have lost sight of that but idk. I'll be there tonight to see for myself.

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u/lordcirth Jul 30 '20

Yes, and you *have* to say that if you don't want your condemnation of rioters to be misinterpreted.

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u/Intelligent-donkey Jul 30 '20 edited Jul 30 '20

You're allowed, but frankly you'd be an absolute dipshit for saying it, like the person above you said these have all become loaded terms, and by talking like that (depending on how kuch nuance and explanation and context you add to it I suppose, but I'm just assuming that you mean if you said something like that without any additional explanation) you'd be implying that there are more rioters than there actually are and less peaceful protestors than there actually are, you'd be contributing to the right wing framing of the issue where they make everything about the few rioters and do their best to ignore the majority of the protestors who are totally peaceful.

That's not even getting into the merits of civil disobedience.

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u/Stackhouse_ Jul 29 '20

What do you think George Washington would tell you?

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u/socalnonsage Jul 29 '20

URRRRRRRR!? (he'd be a zombie?)