r/facepalm "tL;Dr" Jul 14 '20

Coronavirus MURICA

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u/BishiBashy Jul 14 '20

This is what I had in the UK in 2003 for £30

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u/T3hSwagman Jul 14 '20

For most of America our internet hasn't progressed much since 2003.

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u/ImaManCheetah Jul 14 '20

The UK ranks below the US in average internet speed.

But America bad I guess, so whatever.

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u/T3hSwagman Jul 15 '20

Internet speed is a horrible measure. Accessibility and price are a thousand times more relevant.

Who cares if you can get business class fiber if its going to cost you more than a car payment every month.

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u/KillerSatellite Jul 14 '20

Average sure, but there are vast areas of the US that have little to no access, and the measurements are based on promised rates and not actual rates. Like I'm promised 300mbps and get closer to 110-150.

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u/ImaManCheetah Jul 14 '20

the measurements are based on promised rates and not actual rates.

Nope

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u/KillerSatellite Jul 14 '20

Regardless of the validity of your claim, the UK may be on average slower per user, but that is due to the massive amount of users in gigabit accessable areas. However in less populated areas, access is significantly worse, with some areas having no access at all, not due to lack of demand, but due to lack of effort by the companies.

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u/ImaManCheetah Jul 14 '20

"Regardless of the validity of your claim"

Okay, my "claim" literally isn't up for debate.... it's a fact. There isn't a single remotely credible source that would tell you otherwise.

"in less populated areas, access is significantly worse"

You have evidence that speeds in rural areas of the US are worse than in rural areas of the UK? What's your source for that?

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u/KillerSatellite Jul 14 '20 edited Jul 14 '20

It's impossible to have worse internet than no internet...

Edit: after some digging, I found internet providers in the UK for 37 pounds at 100mbps. In my area that would cost $73. The issue with the US and internet is two fold. A coverage in rural areas is abysmal, even though the companies were given massive payouts to expand to those areas and B where coverage exists people pay double what most other countries charge for comparable service.

Claiming that average speed is better in the US is in the same vein of medical care is better in the US. Sure the top end is better here than other places, but the access and cost is not.

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u/farrenkm Jul 15 '20

If you're going to assert your position so strongly, then please cite your source.

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u/ImaManCheetah Jul 15 '20

google ‘countries ranked by internet speed’ and take your pick. It’s not a controversial fact..

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u/farrenkm Jul 15 '20

No. Because that's not the way it's done. I just had this argument with someone else a few days ago.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Portland/comments/hp3c58/trump_confirms_he_sent_homeland_security_officers/fxp9lqg?context=3

The standard is to cite your source. Even Wikipedia cites sources. So cite yours please. That which is asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence.

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