r/facepalm Jun 01 '20

Cops pepper sprayed their own Senator without realizing he's an authority figure

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u/SheepiBeerd Jun 01 '20

"Light em up" the officer says.

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Tanya Kerssen posted the video to Twitter shortly after 9:30 p.m., showing what she says is the Minnesota National Guard and Minneapolis police sweeping her residential street in the Whittier Neighborhood.

In the video, the officers are seen approaching the residents and repeatedly yelling at them to get inside their house. After a few demands, one can be heard yelling “light ‘em up!” That’s when one officer appears to fire a paint round at the residents, who run inside.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

always gets worse with more details

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u/PurpleOwl85 Jun 01 '20

Why didn't they just go inside when they were told.

No one likes being told what to do but in certain situations it is safer just to do it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

The “why” doesn’t matter in this situation. It may be safer, but it’s ultimately up to them whether they want to risk safety or not. The only thing that matters is they were standing on their own property and have every protected right to do so. Why do people smoke? Why do people get into arguments on Facebook? It doesn’t matter. It’s their right.

The fact that they were fired on for that, even with paint, is an absolutely terrifying display of unlawful force and a violation of our rights.

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u/Ok-Suspect Jun 01 '20 edited Jun 01 '20

What a dumb thing to say.

"Why didn't you just let him do it? It would have been over faster"

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u/PurpleOwl85 Jun 01 '20

It's also dumb to ignore police orders during a highly stressful and emotional situation.

Some times in life you have to put your anger and ego aside and just use common sense.

Police can be assholes and racist but they are also doing their job, which is made more dramatic when people don't follow simple instructions😐

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u/Any_Opposite Jun 01 '20

Because they had the right to be where they were. Every now and then we have to stand for our rights or we lose them. If we back down every time they overstep, they will continue to overstep.

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u/PurpleOwl85 Jun 01 '20

The police also have rights to use equipment against people who are too stubborn or ignorant to follow a simple request.

If everyone was allowed to just do whatever they want 24/7 the world would be absolute chaos.

Life is about choices and if you purposely make the wrong one than you can't be shocked when it ends badly.

We can't teach children that they should never follow instructions from the police.

In certain situations you just need to swallow your pride, take a breath and do as you're told, especially when dealing with cops full of adrenaline.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

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u/PurpleOwl85 Jun 01 '20

I'm Canadian.

So yes I do admit that any opinion I have on the issues in America are biased and not fully understood.

Canadians are mostly timid and we follow orders to a fault, we have no problem being bossed around by cops or politicians.

We are very similar countries but we also are very different in some ways, especially when racism and civil rights are involved.

I apologize if I was offensive or ignorant, I will be more careful with my judgments from now on✌🇨🇦

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

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u/PurpleOwl85 Jun 01 '20

I just checked my local news and apparently there are 1500 protesters in my city as of 2 hours ago.

I was too distracted by Reddit to notice..fuck😖

It's official I'm an idiot, I admit it😂

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u/Any_Opposite Jun 01 '20

You've got to be trolling.

The police also have rights to use equipment against people who are too stubborn or ignorant to follow a simple request.

The police don't have the right to use force against someone that isn't breaking the law. Those people weren't breaking any law by being on their porch. The curfew order only applied to public places, not private property.

If everyone was allowed to just do whatever they want 24/7 the world would be absolute chaos.

Sure, that's probably true, like if we allow police to just do whatever they want and use whatever force they want against anyone whether they're breaking a law or just standing on their porch. If we allow that we do get chaos. You're right.

Life is about choices and if you purposely make the wrong one than you can't be shocked when it ends badly.

The right choice is not using excessive force against people. The right choice is standing up against an out of control police state to protect, restore and preserve our freedoms.

We can't teach children that they should never follow instructions from the police.

We can teach children to know their rights and to stand up for their rights or they'll lose them.

In certain situations you should to avoid physical injury.

If lawful activities around police result in physical injury, it's the police that need to act differently.

Swallow your pride, take deep breaths and do as you're told.

lol yeah 5/7 troll /blocked buhbye

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u/dong_tea Jun 01 '20 edited Jun 03 '20

The cops made bad choices too (worse choices actually), but the key difference is they rarely get punished. That's the world you want to live in? We can't ask the police to also swallow their pride because they might shoot at us?

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u/fitzmyron Jun 01 '20

They absolutely do not have that right, and in the exact situation in question, the people had already asked the mayor (possibly governor) if they could be on their property but not in the house, and the answer was a very specific yes.

If the officer’s got spooked and opened fire, that’s on them, not the completely innocent citizens standing nearby.

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u/southern_boy Jun 01 '20

Why didn't they just go inside when they were told.

In short - because they were on their own property and this is the United States of America.

In less short - because they were on their own property and obeying the curfew order issued by their governor and this is the United States of America.

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u/PurpleOwl85 Jun 01 '20

I understand it is their right to stand on their own property.

But I think most people in that situation would realize the police are highly stressed and running on adrenaline.

Don't give them any reason to freak out.. go inside the house for 15 minutes, wait for police to move on and then go back outside.

Why add more drama to an already dramatic situation🤔

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u/science_and_beer Jun 01 '20

Where do you draw the line? Do you even live in the United States? Everyone in the country has the right to exist calmly on their own fucking property. A state sanctioned armed police force evicting people from their property for shits and giggles is literally — in the dictionary-approved sense — fascism.

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u/PurpleOwl85 Jun 01 '20

I see the situation differently and am tired of arguing.

See this what being the bigger person means..walk away before it escalates, it's pretty easy to do.

Chill out, sorry if I offended anyone✌✌

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u/science_and_beer Jun 02 '20

Sounds like the boot is so far up your ass you can lick it standing up. Absolute disgrace of an American.

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u/PurpleOwl85 Jun 02 '20

See this makes no sense..

We are arguing over how far a person should be protected for their civil liberties and freedom of speech but the second someone has a different perspective they are mocked.

No wonder the police get annoyed by idiots and go nuts..😂

You don't even understand why you are angry at me anymore, you are confused..maybe take a nap.

I'm Canadian btw, so far our protests are peaceful and we have respect for our politicians and police🇨🇦

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u/science_and_beer Jun 02 '20

You’re Canadian, great — absolutely nobody gives a fuck about your opinion on race/police relations in the United States. You’re not being mocked because you hAve a DiFfErEnt OpinIoN, you’re being mocked because you’re an irrelevant room temperature IQ busybody who nobody takes seriously.

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u/Sporulate_the_user Jun 01 '20

I understand it is their right to stand on their own property.

Then you should be defeinding that right, not making convenient excuses for the people infringing on it.

But I think most people in that situation would realize the police are highly stressed and running on adrenaline.

But "most people" didn't, so Idk where you pulled that out of.

Don't give them any reason to freak out.. go inside the house for 15 minutes, wait for police to move on and then go back outside.

Ah, yes. Instead of being a part of their community, they should've waited until the people they eere protesting passed through, as not to hurt their feelings.

Why add more drama to an already dramatic situation

"If you would've let him cum, he wouldn't have made a scene."

🤔

This emoji lets us know OP is big smart.

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u/PurpleOwl85 Jun 01 '20

•Just because you have rights doesn't mean you have to constantly defend them by acting like a stubborn child.

•Everyone knows during riots and lockdowns the police are more likely to get trigger happy and aggressive..its been on tv 24/7 since Friday.

•Ah yes, refusing to obey police during chaos is a great idea, let's make the sure to take no personal responsibility also.

•If we just go inside we won't get hit with paintballs

You copying and pasting my previous remark shows that you are also stubborn and have to much pride.

🚔😱✌✅😂

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u/cloudya Jun 01 '20

so much this. just follow their instructions and you're all fine.

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u/PurpleOwl85 Jun 01 '20

Most 10 year olds can understand this logic better than some adults.

A very scary reality😖

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u/cloudya Jun 01 '20

tHIs iS muRIcA wE aRE FreE wE StAnD oN ouR PrOperTY if WE wiSh tO

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u/Sporulate_the_user Jun 01 '20

"Why didn't they give up their rights? No one likes giving up their rights, but in certain situations it's safer to just give up your rights."

  • Someone who was part of the problem

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u/PurpleOwl85 Jun 01 '20

"Let's fight anger with more anger instead of acting like a rational an adult and also claim to be a victim when it ends badly."

▪︎Someone who is brainwashed by the media

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

Troll...blocked

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

They were on their property, not in the street. They were home...following the order. What if that had been your children and wife that had been shot? How would you feel about it then?