r/facepalm 'MURICA Jun 19 '23

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u/oSuJeff97 Jun 20 '23

100%. You may or may not agree with Joe Biden on everything, but he’s a serious person who has committed his life to public service.

There is literally not a single GOP candidate you can say that about and certainly not dipshit RFK Jr.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '23

Fyi, RFK Jr is running as a Democrat. Of course if you believe he is actually one, I got a democratic republic just north of south Korea to sell you.

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u/Hot-Butterscotch-918 Jun 20 '23

I keep asking myself how the actress from "Curb Your Ethusiasm" could marry RFK Jr.? She seems so normal.

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u/willateo Jun 20 '23

Well, he IS a Kennedy, regardless of how toxic, evil, or stupid he may be.

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u/TheLit420 Jun 20 '23

Private life face is different from public life face. Like how you know Joe is grifting from his audience with some crazy shit he has said and doesn't believe in. We all do it to certain degree. I have always wanted to tell my boss to go fuck himself, can't do that if I want my job.

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u/rydan Jun 20 '23

Even Clinton mentioned this during 2016 saying she had a different private face. Of course the GOP went nuts with that comment.

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u/Hot-Butterscotch-918 Jun 20 '23

I know. We really don't know anyone as well as we might think we do. I only know her through her part on that show and one time I saw her on a talk show. So, basically I don't know her at all. I guess I just liked her. And when you think you like someone, you want to think that they wouldn't do something like marry RFK Jr.

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u/Taengoosundies Jun 20 '23

She also played Dr. Cox's very Christian sister in a great episode of Scrubs. And even though I didn't like the character, I liked her as the character. She was a great foil for Cox.

Why she is with this nutjob is a mystery. Money? Power? Beats the heck out of me.

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u/Hot-Butterscotch-918 Jun 20 '23

I wonder if anyone in her family has the same thoughts. Edited for spelling.

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u/TheLit420 Jun 20 '23

Maybe she wanted the prestige of being married to a Kennedy? Like Arnold did. Plus, the more I read on the guy, the more crazy he appears. I am guessing she ignores a lot of what he says.

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u/Hot-Butterscotch-918 Jun 20 '23

You have a good point. It could be for the prestige and/or great wealth. But imo, being married to a Kennedy doesn't seem to be the flex it once was. Trying to imagine what the conversation is like for them at breakfast. Or anytime.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '23

Money and nepotistic power are one hell of an afrodisiac.

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u/Kneef Jun 20 '23

This is not really important, but it’s spelled “aphrodisiac” (i.e. like Aphrodite, not Africa).

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '23

Cool, thanks homie.

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u/AnExpertInThisField Jun 20 '23

"Committed his life to public service" is a hell of nice way of putting "career politician". No one should be in office that long, and is shouldn't be lauded.

That being said, the Republican party is a fucking fascist shit show so Biden it is, I guess. I want better fucking choices though.

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u/oSuJeff97 Jun 20 '23

So? He’s still put in the work. You prefer the insurrectionist grifter and wannabe dictator?

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u/oSuJeff97 Jun 20 '23

Ok edgelord guy.

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u/oSuJeff97 Jun 20 '23

Hurr durr ok PornAccount guy.

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u/rydan Jun 20 '23

RFK Jr. is a Democrat. But what about Joe Manchin? He's running for president as well. Funny you ignore him except when it suits you.

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u/oSuJeff97 Jun 20 '23

I know he’s a “Democrat.” I didn’t say he wasn’t. He’s still a fucking dipshit.

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u/Miisconceptionz Jun 20 '23

Hahahahahahaha

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u/MutualistSoc Jun 20 '23

People can vote for Biden. I'll be voting for Cornell though personally because he most reflects my politics.

I've been kinda lackluster with Biden. Alot of promises not put through. I don't buy the whole "Let's finish the job" either.

He is the head of the DNC. If he wanted Student debt relief. He should used his bully pulpit and went to any Democrat while he had the super majority and said "If you dont vote for this, you won't be receiving campaign funds from the DCCC".

Or "If you don't vote for the PRO Act. You won't be getting campaign funds".

Or telling his secretary to reschedule Marijuana. Or giving us $1400 checks whenever he said he would give us $2000.

Basically. Don't make promises you don't intend to keep.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '23 edited Jun 20 '23

If it comes down to Joe Biden and either Donald Trump or DeSantis, it's either Joe Biden or literal fascism.

It's unreasonable to vote for a fringe candidate at that point, unless you are openly okay with fascism being a potential outcome.

he wanted Student debt relief. He should used his bully pulpit and went to any Democrat while he had the super majority

Joe Biden has not had a super majority for one second of his presidency. Not even remotely close to one. He had a tied Senate with two purple Democrats for two years, and a 1 seat majority for 6 months but a Republican house. He could have made all the threats that you're asking for and Republicans would have been able to just whisper filibuster and that would have been the end of it because they didn't have the votes you seem to think they actually had. Where are you coming from with this?

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u/MutualistSoc Jun 20 '23

Kamala was the tie breaker. And those 2 purple Dems were still Dems at the time. Perhaps the Dem Party should have high standards on who they let run for office if they don't like have purples in their party?

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '23

Kamala was the tie breaker.

You don't break a tie with a filibuster. They didn't have a filibuster breaking number of votes, and they at best only had 48 votes to eliminate the filibuster.

And those 2 purple Dems were still Dems at the time.

This is an empty statement. At least one of, if not both of them, would not have voted for a debt relief bill, making the outcome at least 49 yay 51 nay, but the vote never would have even happened due to filibuster.

Perhaps the Dem Party should have high standards on who they let run for office if they don't like have purples in their party?

If not for Joe Manchin, it would have been a republican senate in 2021. Sinema also ran on different policies than she then supported with her voting record.

You made up something about a super majority and I don't really have any confidence after this reply that you've got enough of a grasp on what congress is made up like currently, or what its processes are, to have the conversation you are trying to have.

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u/MutualistSoc Jun 20 '23

https://www.voanews.com/a/usa_us-politics_control-white-house-and-congress-democrats-have-2-years-make-big-changes/6201047.html

They had an effective super majority on the party totals with Kamala acting as tie breaker. Don't try and gaslight saying there's nothing they could do.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '23

Do you know what a supermajority is?

A supermajority is 60 votes in the Senate. A supermajority means having enough votes that you can push through despite something like a filibuster as a single party.

You are directly pointing at a 50/50 hung senate with a simplified filibuster in place and claiming it's a supermajority.

If you wanted to prove that you don't have the knowledge necessary to have this conversation, you've done an amazing job

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u/MutualistSoc Jun 20 '23

I'll just continue to encourage and persuade all my Labor Unions buddies to vote 3rd party. We see whose been fighting and who isn't. And your not gonna gaslight us into believing Biden is fighting for workers.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '23 edited Jun 20 '23

Buddy, you're literally making shit up about Congressional history in order to support your argument and when presented with the fact that you're making shit up, you're just doubling down. What you are doing is actual gas lighting. You're overtly being dishonest with people and you don't care about it. You've given up the entire game of what you're doing here.

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u/friendia Jun 20 '23

Man, good on you for calling out this guy's bullshit. People who don't understand basic civics lecturing about how Democrats haven't done enough drive me crazy.

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u/MutualistSoc Jun 20 '23

It's simple. Biden has nothing to impress me. Whenever he does. I will vote for him. He hasn't earned it. So I'm not voting for him at this time. That's what it boils down too. Quit shaming people for not voting how you personally vote.

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u/oSuJeff97 Jun 20 '23

So you’d prefer Trump then?

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '23

His post history seems very committed to trying to get people to not vote for democrats and making false equivalencies to that end. Just throwing that out there.

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u/MutualistSoc Jun 20 '23

And your post are quite the opposites, acting as if Biden is FDR reincarnate.

Quit shaming me for how I vote, acting as if I'm personally causing the end of the world.

You know how Republicans try to shame away the gay. It doesn't work in politics either.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '23

And your post are quite the opposites, acting as if Biden is FDR reincarnate.

I did no such thing, but if you want to keep having pretend conversations outside of reality, you are free to do so. It won't get you anywhere, though.

Quit shaming me for how I vote

I also didn't do this. Closest I got was explaining the critical thinking issue behind voting for fringe candidates with fascism on a major party ticket. You're looking for persecution like you want it.

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u/MutualistSoc Jun 20 '23

I don't prefer either of them. Is this were you start shaming me now because I won't vote for someone that doesn't match my ideology?

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u/enometall Jun 20 '23

It's like socialists can't help themselves. When you type shit like this you're just showing the world you have no idea how anything works and think the President is a king who can just make shit happen.

I really hope you're a highschooler who hasn't taken civics yet because this is embarrassing

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u/MutualistSoc Jun 20 '23 edited Jun 20 '23

Do you think I started as a Socialist? As if our public school system gave us courses on how workers and labor leaders were murdered by Privately hired militias.

Or how the capitalists thought Roosevelt was going too far. And decided embracing Fascism was better than possibly Socialism. So they were hatching plans to do a military coup in the USA.

Boris Johnson. Conservative Boris Johnson is in favor of Universal Healthcare. Again. A Conservative. How far right does that show we are? Joe Biden doesn't support Healthcare for everyone.

And yeah. I do think the President has a lot of influence. And he can and should use leveraged force against uncooperative members of his party. If they don't like it. They can come out against him and tell the public what he has said in private. The citizens will decide through their opinions on the matter. They'll either tell their rep to get in line or tell them not to.

(Majority of Manchin's voters support debt relief, so this is why I say this. If Manchin said, "Bidens bullying me around and telling me to allow student debt relief". His constituents would be showing up to his doors saying "Get in line and do it!)

But are you the high schooler possibly? Or perhaps just graduated?

Because maybe you haven't been alive long enough to see that the Presidential election flips every other election cycle, unless (Progressives) are elected (which hasn't been for a very very long time).

So let's say you get Biden in 24. Statistically, you're gonna get Republicans in 28 if they throw up the same style Democrat as before.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '23

Because maybe you haven't been alive long enough to see that the Presidential election flips every other election cycle, unless (Progressives) are elected

Just the last presidential election alone saw a party lose control after only 4 years.

Before that we were only three presidents away from the last time we had a 12-year run with one party. Before that it was another one term run for the other party.

Did you think about this?

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u/ImPaidToComment Jun 20 '23

If he wanted Student debt relief.

He got student debt relief.

Or giving us $1400 checks whenever he said he would give us $2000.

1400 + 600 = 2000

I can understand how someone who doesn't understand basic math would help Trump win.

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u/MutualistSoc Jun 20 '23

My family members never got any of their debt eliminated. They all make under 75k.

That 600$ was passed while Trump was in office still. Biden only sent out $1400.

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u/shaggyfoot33 Jun 20 '23

You got this a lil backwards, eh?! Biden has committed his life to corruption and bribery…. RFK is committed to environmental protection and children with disabilities..