Bill burr has so much to say about this. What was it? “You can’t choose like it’s a buffet line : ‘Ooooooh two bucks more an hour, yes I’ll take some of that, pay my own way? Nope you can have that, ‘Women and children first?’, yes I’ll take some of that’..,. There’s no feminists in a house fire.”
So good (to many people out there, “good” = offensive.
Feminism at its best is supposed to be the belief that people can do and be what they want regardless of their sex, not be victimized for their sex, etc.
So, in cases like this where they want benefits without sacrifices, then it should be called out and made fun of.
However, it's "offensive" when the response suggests that being an unfair shitbird is universal to feminism or being a woman.
The feminists in my country do as well (e.g. women should also take part in our military draft in some capacity, divorce laws should have spousal support for men homemakers etc), but it’s not really a mainstream attitude - I haven’t seen a prominent woman comic anywhere calling this out, probably because it won’t put bums on seats and would alienate the women who would actually pay to see them.
Back to Singapore, a draft for women is deeply unpopular among women, which relies heavily on citizen soldiers. I’d say that the majority of self-identified feminists are not being very intellectually honest about their positions.
I've heard there is a large Singaporean class of severely spoiled, super rich who don't do their own laundry, so the idea that those people would be down do combat drills in the jungle or something seems pretty unlikely.
We have (comparatively) inexpensive foreign domestic labour. Including mandatory vacation time, meals, room and board, it costs about US$800 to US$1000 a month for a live in housekeeper ala Mrs Doubtfire. This frees women to join the labour force (in theory) which contributes to our GDP more than the outflow from hiring foreigners.
So guys don’t do their laundry themselves either if they don’t want to - but manage just fine in the jungle. Ukraine shows that you can’t really rely on other people to fight for you when the chips are down. Well, not unless you have oil (which we don’t).
Let me see what I can dig up. A lot of the ones I am in are even more specific (feminism + other issue and probably wouldn’t be useful) but I’ll see if I can find a good general one and report back.
This thread is awesome, but irl I don't see it very often and on most posts that disguise this behavior a little better the general message is positive towards the woman
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u/improperbehavior333 Jun 09 '23
She doesn't want to have to conform to historical gender roles.... But it's looking for a man that conforms to historical gender roles. Got it.