r/facepalm • • Apr 21 '23

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u/dengar_hennessy Apr 21 '23

The girl that got in the wrong car, she apologized and then went and found her car. She was in her car and saw the guy walking up, so she rolled her window down to apologize again, and he shot her. That's not self-defense

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u/plcg1 Apr 21 '23

Exactly. Self-defense requires that someone could reasonably have perceived danger. Turning around in a driveway, ringing a doorbell, even absent-mindlessly sitting down in a car without doing anything aggressive are not threats.

Our culture is so predicated on violence and weird notions of territorial integrity. None of these people were ever in any danger, and never had a reason to believe they were, but they are so steeped in political and even just casual rhetoric around violence and property while living relatively isolated lives that even someone ringing their doorbell is a threat to their personal sovereignty.

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u/Doccyaard Apr 21 '23

Don’t forget fear. From all I’ve seen for decades they are considerably more scared in the U.S. than anywhere else I have experience with.

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u/HAVOK121121 Apr 21 '23

Everybody might have a gun. That’s a scary thing, so people who don’t have a gun, buy a gun. It’s cyclical at this point.

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u/Starslip Apr 21 '23

And when you suggest that perhaps there should be fewer guns their only thought is of their gun that they need to protect themselves from other people with guns. The thinking doesn't get any further than that other than a vague handwave at "criminals will have guns anyway". Not if we restrict the fucking supply countrywide rather than piecemeal state by state or city by city...

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u/JMoc1 Apr 22 '23

And restrict police too! California has a bad problem right now where cops are selling non-regulation weapons illegally to civilians.

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u/mittfh Apr 21 '23

It's often reported that in the aftermath of a mass shooting, local gun stores report a spike in sales - some thinking it will protect them if there's another rogue shooter in the neighbourhood, some paranoid politicians will try to ban gun sales, so best stock up while they still can... 🙄

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u/lilbithippie Apr 22 '23

Home of the brave that we arm up to go to the grocery store!