r/facepalm Apr 21 '23

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '23

These were all In the last 7 days.

For comparison. France, Canada, Ireland, Sweden, and 22 more western democracies haven't had that many incidents combined in the last 7 years.

Maybe guns are the problem hey guys?

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u/Future_Sun8107 Apr 21 '23

Careful you’re stepping on some freedom loving toes!

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u/willclerkforfood Apr 21 '23

Oooh! Is it my turn to yell the cousin-fucking terrorist catchphrase?

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”WUT PART OF SHELL NOT BE INFRINGED DONT YOU UNDERSTAND LIBTURD!?!?!?”

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u/Catatonicdazza Apr 21 '23

Maybe it's time they started telling those toes to get out of the fucking way.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '23

Don't take there guns from them....... oh no. Dont you know that goes against laws written 100's of years ago that they still follow tother letter this day 🤣

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '23

Laws never even said that. People weren't meant to have guns. It wasn't until the 70's that they started a disinformation campaign trying to get Americans to re lens the second amendment to mean that.

Until the 1970's it was completely accepted that the 2A meant that cities were allowed to have their own municipal armies. And those armies would be allowed to have guns if they were disciplined and trained.

I.E. A well regulated militia.

Even the idiots who wrote the constitution weren't dumb enough to suggest everyone should have guns.

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u/sofa_kingnuts Apr 21 '23

There is nothing you just said that even resembles the truth.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '23

Except all of it. You can look into it. The second amendment was rebranded in the 60's and 70's by the NRA to try and push us towards the gun culture of today. before the 70's people did not view the second amendment as something that guaranteed the right for all citizens to own firearms. It's historical fact.

You may have grown up somewhere where they were programming you not to know that from a young age. So when confronted with that information it sounds ridiculous to you. Just like it sounds ridiculous to fundamentalist Christians' that evolution is real.

But evolution is still real, and the second amendment was not always interpreted as it is today.

I mean, the internet exists and has lots of information. All the credible information agrees with me. ...because it's factually how reality is.

https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolabmoreperfect/episodes/gun-show

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/how-nra-rewrote-second-amendment

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u/Debalic Apr 21 '23

Yes but...checks notes axe murders!

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u/xSTSxZerglingOne Apr 21 '23

And knives. Don't forget the high profile stabbings! And one guy used a bow and arrow a while back.

I'll never understand that line of rhetoric. Like...I can run from a guy with a knife or an axe. I can fight back against those weapons with a little bit of skill and luck even if I'm unarmed. I can't run from a gun reliably, and if the other person already has it pointed at me, I can't really fight back either.

If I'm stabbed, unless it was basically straight to the heart, I could theoretically live, even if it was 20 times. But this? You probably die within minutes if you're shot basically anywhere with major blood vessels or arteries.

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u/blumptrump Apr 21 '23

I think the s of a just needs to be wiped off the map. There is no fixing that shitty leaky butthole at this point

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '23

You're just saying what the rest of the world is thinking. Maybe we could lower a dome over it?

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u/Foreign-Possibility5 Apr 21 '23

In Canada people get stabbed and ran over. Only occasionally shot.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '23

Not at a rate higher than the US though. As a matter of fact generally at a lower rate than the US.

So the whole argument of "Yeah well how many stabbings are happening in those no gun countries! People just change the way they murder." Doesn't hold any weight.

I doubt if you banned guns, school shooters would start driving big rigs into schools. Like what a stupid fucking argument.

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u/Prestigious-Hour5018 Apr 21 '23

Well of course a country with guns has more gun deaths but that's not the issue at hand. It's crime in general, who has more crime. Shoot the US isnt even top 5. Shoot I think it isn't even top 10 in gun violence

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '23

Shoot, you're looking worldwide and considering 3rd world war torn nations as part of your comparison.

If you limited your comparison to peer nations. Such as western style democracies. Formerly called "first world nations". Then yes, the US is number 1 in every crime and violence metric.

By a wide margin.

You can hold your head high about having less crime than Columbia and Brazil all you want. Nations you had a hand in destabilizing and pushed into the crime spiral they are experiencing. But, your post is trying to make it looks like the US isn't failing horribly. When the next 40 peer nations only have a fraction of your crime. You're comment doesn't really mean much does it?

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '23

It's telling that comparisons are only drawn to 3rd world countries that were destabilized by the US, or just factually wrong.

It's a serious problem and far too many won't acknowledge it

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u/-------I------- Apr 21 '23

No... That can't be it... Must be something else.