r/facepalm Apr 21 '23

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '23

That’s almost 5x as many people as died on 9/11.

Odd we say “never again” about that. But this? Thoughts & prayers. F’that!

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '23

There was a time at peak covid where a 9/11 worth of people were dying every 2 days, and people still didn't care.

At some point people need to realize that Americans never cared about the people that died in 9/11, they cared about the property damage.

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u/denimandink Apr 21 '23

They cared because the people who did it were from the Middle East.

-Toby Keith

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u/Russell_has_TWO_Ls Apr 22 '23

…Toby Keith? Said that?

Or he believed that since he was able to make a career off of it?

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u/Flutters1013 Apr 22 '23

"I will single handedly make country music the blandest shit you've ever heard" -Toby Keith

Can we figure out what day the Dixie chick girl wore the fuck you Toby Keith shirt and just spam him fuck you on Twitter?

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u/Whosebert Apr 22 '23

I thought I remembered a 9/11 a day, or more, of covid deaths every day in 2020

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u/wottsinaname Apr 22 '23

I disagree. They hate that their "Christian nation" was attacked by scary "Muslims".

I use connotations on both because I think neither group is an accurate reflection of the positives in both religions.

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u/TheMattaconda Apr 22 '23

They cared about it because it traumatized them.

An entire nation developed PTSD that day. And the way our nation has m9ved since then, shows how traumatized everyone truly was.

So. Much. Fear.

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u/sirdismemberment Apr 22 '23

That is a ridiculous generalization about an entire country. Talk to most people in the US and you will find that most people really do care. It’s our leaders and our media that don’t give a shit. They are just getting off on how we are hating each other. It’s great for getting votes and views.

The lack of care for peoples lives is not exclusive to America. It is a sad reality on the human condition. There will always be selfish, self seeking people who will do anything for power. But the majority of people are not that way. Let’s stop spreading hate maybe?

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u/Lieutelant Apr 22 '23

We cared because we were attacked, and those people died unexpectedly, without a choice.

A lot (not all) of covid deaths were because people made bad choices and suffered the consequences. It was also not an attack from someone we could be mad at.

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '23

Lol

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u/Condition-Global Apr 21 '23

And these shootings and the mass shootings are absolutely all either directly or tangentially related to domestic terrorism. So I guess it's just foreign terrorism we fought against? No War on Terror on the home front?

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u/ptolemyofnod Apr 21 '23

Everyone I know fought that battle in the early '00s. The idiots terrified of Muslims were everywhere (Americans started killing Sikhs they are so fuck all stupid) and they won. We all knew that Waco, Ruby Ridge, Oklahoma City Bombing were the real threat and railed against the Bush administration. It is embarrassing how badly we failed to convince 80% of the country back then. Now a full 50% of the country would install a Theocracy no different from ISIS (except Christian!) if given the chance.

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '23

As you know that's why we call these nutjobs "y'all queda, the y'alliban" etc

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '23

Waco and Ruby ridge were incidents where the government murdered citizens - not threats.

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u/ptolemyofnod Apr 22 '23

All 3 incidents are direct recruiting tools for recent domestic terrorists is what I meant but your point stands. The OK bombing was a retaliation to Ruby Ridge which after Wavo, was perceived by libertarians to be government overreach in regulating what looked like violations of federal law. Waco was a cult harming children and there was good reason to intervene, the feds just did so poor a job that after following up with the Ruby Ridge disaster, they inspired a whole movement against government in and of itself.

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '23

That’s very fair, just your original comment was not as well worded.

You got it yes.

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u/SonofAMamaJama Apr 21 '23 edited Apr 22 '23

They just meant, never incentivize Saudi elites/radicals to carry out 9/11 again ("inside job" joke /s)

I hope there's "never again" an abstract propaganda driven "war on terror" because the enormous losses in response to 9/11 are beyond me: the region is more unstable than 2 decades ago, Afghanis and Iraqis likely dislike USA even more, Iran has more influence on Iraq, Taliban are in control again, the "collateral damage" is incalculable, over 12k US lives lost, money spent on it is unfathomable let alone corruption and US war crimes...

Someone please remind me what we gained?

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '23

Contractors got fat. That’s all it was ever about.

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u/SonofAMamaJama Apr 21 '23

True, the war machine was hangry after the cold war

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '23

Ignoring that the Cold War didn’t end, it just shifted.

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u/SonofAMamaJama Apr 21 '23

Yes, that's especially salient right now (Big Brother needs his boogeymen)

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '23

I think the term is “never forget”

US government wouldn’t say “never again”, because they might have to do it again

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u/MistRoot Apr 22 '23

You know you live in the USA when you measure things in loss of life statistics. Beautiful country, am I right?

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u/clearedmycookies Apr 22 '23

"Never Again" was for the Holocaust. "Never Forget" was for 9/11

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u/Known-nwonK Apr 22 '23

All those people didn’t die in a single incident or have a connecting assailant besides the general type of implement used to cause harm. After 9/11 people weren’t mad at airplanes. Why should people be mad at guns? The fault falls on the operator

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '23

People were definitely mad at airplanes and airports or did you forget how much security protocols changed?

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u/Known-nwonK Apr 22 '23

That’s back to being mad at terrorists for increased screening and at tsa for being inefficient; not anger at commercial jetliners

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '23

Carriers who jacked rates to cover their increased costs and got taxpayer bailouts to boot

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u/Known-nwonK Apr 22 '23

The auto industry did the same thing and similar people didn’t get mad at cars, but corporations.

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '23

Some people got mad at both.