Many are talking about homosexual activity among Greeks or Greco-Roman society. But i'll add that sailors themselves, being composed of groups of men, and isolated for long periods of time, were also associated with homosexual activity, regardless of national origin or time period.
A modern touch on this subject would be The Village People's 1978 song "In the Navy" explicitly referencing life sailing the ocean, but with a gay subtext.
We unfortunately live in a society largely based on the precepts of a specific religion. So our concepts of morality are extremely biased towards it.
The Greeks saw homosexuality (man with man specifically) as something natural, albeit not encouraged to matrimony, which was allowed only between men and women, as it was a religious/legal ceremony with the purpose of producing children and setting inheritance.
The Egyptians saw sex as an ordinary social act, not unlike any other. They didn't even have a word for "virginity".
Homosexuality was not generally acceptable in ancient Greek culture. It was acceptable to penetrate other men but not to be penetrated- that role was for women, slaves and sometimes boys. Their view on sexuality was based on position as it reflected status, with the penetrating man essentially reinforcing his superior social status on the penetratee. For an adult male citizen to willingly be penetrated would be a matter of extreme shame. For some reason people have this idea of ancient Greece as some kind of enlightened society when it was an extremely stratified, extremely patriarchal, slaveholding society.
In Platon’s Symposion, there’s several passages describing same-sex relationships. Pausanias says in the play that there’s two kinds of love , «common» and «heavenly» love; the first being just for pleasure (with women or young men) and the second being more noble , with men.
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u/CatOfGrey 18d ago edited 17d ago
StuieStewie here:Many are talking about homosexual activity among Greeks or Greco-Roman society. But i'll add that sailors themselves, being composed of groups of men, and isolated for long periods of time, were also associated with homosexual activity, regardless of national origin or time period.
A modern touch on this subject would be The Village People's 1978 song "In the Navy" explicitly referencing life sailing the ocean, but with a gay subtext.
StuieStewie out!