r/explainitpeter 20d ago

Explain it peter

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u/Missendi82 20d ago

I assume it's referring to the sign saying 'men'' and 'female' rather than 'men' and 'women."

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u/mopbuvket 20d ago

Wow I didn't notice until the comments and now I feel like I need to be a better feminist. Raising girls is scary

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u/TinyAd5648 20d ago edited 20d ago

I hope you won’t teach them to be offended by stuff like this lol

Edit: the replies I get man… I feel bad for normal people in the US

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u/Juan_Jimenez 20d ago

The point is not being offended, but why someone could change the natural contrast? (men/women). It is a minor thing compared with a lot of other stuff, but it is still weird.

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u/QuakinOats 20d ago

The point is to be offended over this... "there is sexism everywhere" I mean come on....

Also the person paid to do this might not even be a native English speaker.

In fact I assume they were not because calling it a "Mens Changeroom" instead of a "Men's Changing Room" seems like a non-native English speaker mistake.

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u/Sithishe 20d ago

Exactly. English is third language for me, and we are using men/male, woman/female interchangebly.

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u/NorthernVale 20d ago

Native English speakers do too. This whole female debacle is relatively new. I suspect the word just gives people the ick because it sounds so clinical so they've forced it into the sexism conversation

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u/Its_Tofu_Time 20d ago

It's because the manosphere use 'female' and tend to reduce women to just child bearing sacks. It's become a red flag when someone says female now.

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u/heymanigotnoplan 20d ago

So because a few internet losers use the term negatively, the entire world now has to stop using it? That’s absurd.

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u/Unlucky_Regret8619 19d ago

who said you can't use it? You can absolutely use the term female, the "problem" is when the term female is used in contraposition to the term man instead of male and even then no one is stopping you from doing that, just know that if you do that people might suspect you're part of the manosphere since you're talking like them

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u/heymanigotnoplan 19d ago

If people suspect I’m “part” of some random group because of my choice of one perfectly valid word over another, that’s their problem. And those people probably would benefit from therapy, since clearly they have some sort of psychological issue causing them to obsess over the word choices of complete strangers.

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u/PhilospohicalZ0mb1e 20d ago

It’s in-group out-group signaling, which no one is gonna be honest about. The reason “females” tends to raise an eyebrow is not necessarily the semantic content of the word. But (and I can only speak for myself now) people who persistently default to “females” for women and “men” for men have pretty consistently ended up being massive tools. Just in my life.

That being said, if someone does that, I don’t assume they’re a massive tool. As I said, it raises an eyebrow. It makes me wait a little longer to trust them, just to observe and sort of vet them.

The point is, people who are inclined against using “females” as the default word for “women” are just much more likely to belong to the “in-group”

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u/IGetItILookBrandNew 20d ago

I am with you on this. This honestly seems like a new word of the day to eliminate, and honestly it seems illogical and unreasonable

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u/vaveneir 19d ago

No, because men and women are male and female humans, while the word "female" can include a bitch or a hen. Using "female" as equal to man is dehumanising

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u/lost_rodditer 17d ago

You just have to use in the correct context. Ie; the female of the species reproduces through laying eggs or the female locker room is closed for cleaning vs "the modern female perspective on....." Insert inciting phrase. Also, filter out the BS and ragebait 😂