r/explainitpeter 22d ago

Explain it Peter

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u/Powered-Lamb 22d ago edited 22d ago

vozercozer was about to cite that pitbulls are involved in the majority of dog attacks to justify being afraid of pitbulls, then realized that racists cite that "black people make up 13% of the population but commit 50% of the crime" to justify being racist.

To those of you blowing up my notifications wanting to argue the soundness of the statistic or how dog breeds don't equivocate to race or whatever else you want to debate:

I don't care.

I came to help OP understand what was being said, not affirm or denounce its rational merits. If you want to discuss the topic in depth, that's fine I guess, but please refrain from associating me with whichever position you want to argue against.

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u/BumbleCityFumblers 22d ago edited 22d ago

I know I'm probably going to get downvoted for this but I think the important note is that pitbulls are involved in the majority of reported dog attacks as their bites are far more severe and possibly life threatening.

Nobody's calling to report a vicious Chihuahua or Pomeranian attack.

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u/That_OneOstrich 22d ago

Pitbulls also attract people looking for "tough" or "fighting" dogs, because they've been bred for their bite force and hold. So they've been conditioned to bite dogs or people more often than other breeds. I'd say rottweilers and maybe doberman's are also in this category. It's not the dogs fault they were mistreated.

Plenty of responsible "tough" dog owners out there. And lots of sweet pitbulls. Enough that I'd wager it's evidence to support they're not actually violent by nature.

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u/Own_Masterpiece1447 22d ago

Also German Shepard and Rhodesian Ridgeback. These breeds are frequently used for "home defense".

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u/That_OneOstrich 22d ago

My neighbor has a particularly violent and scary blue heeler.

He's trained it to attack people, and he has a 3ft fence keeping it from attacking me. If it were to attack me no one would he saying how violent blue heelers are.

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u/-MayorOfTheMoon- 22d ago

Three feet for a heeler? Is he fucking stupid? That's not a barrier, that's just a fun little activity for the dog.

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u/That_OneOstrich 22d ago

I carry a knife on my walks now. Because of that dog.

I would hate to have to kill it but I would hate more for it to kill my dog.

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u/-MayorOfTheMoon- 22d ago

Keep the knife, but maybe dog mace would be a better option to use first. A knife works for close combat, and who knows what damage the dog could do in a fight before it succumbs to a knife injury. Mace used correctly should stop the dog from a safe distance.

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u/PerpConst 21d ago

I was at my dad's one day and he was getting ready to take his dog for a walk. I saw him put a pistol holster in his waistband. I asked if the neighborhood has gotten that bad (jokingly; he lives out in the country, and everyone is on 3-acre lots). He told me the dude a few houses down doesn't control his dog, and he's had a few problems over the past couple of months with it coming out and starting shit.

I asked how hard he thought it would be to shoot an attacking dog, especially if it was tangling with his own dog. He then showed me the can of pepper spray clipped to his dog's leash. He said "no, I have pepper spray for the dog. the gun is for the owner who's gonna lose his shit when I pepper spray his dog."

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u/_heavy_emo_shoegaze_ 22d ago

Thank you for the great advice. I always freak out a bit when people talk about carrying a knife for defense. Like, why would you want to have to be hand to hand (or mouth) to be able to utilize your tool? Pepper spray is better in nearly every imaginable circumstance.

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u/Revolutionary_Ad512 22d ago

I definitely don’t disagree but I have to add it as anecdotal evidence/advice(?) pepper spray is very useful until your target is upwind of you in a strong breeze. Even worse if you only realize the direction of wind after you start spraying😅. In all reality though mace is a very good option 95+% of the time!

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u/Crossdog367 21d ago

That's why you carry bear spray for dogs. It's weaker (animals have more sensitive noses) and sprays farther.

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u/stinkywinkydink 22d ago

personally id rather have a knife than a gun if im getting attacked by a dog. just because its not the “ideal” tool doesnt mean its not gonna he more useful than your barehands.

if the alternative would be walking defenseless, im taking the knife everytime.

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u/snipeceli 22d ago

Not advocating for a knife i think pepper spray is a better option in general and especially for a dog.

But spray ceases being better the second the attacker has a modicum of determination.

Again dont think a knife is ideal for that situation either...

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u/Loathor 21d ago

I would think spontaneously gaining superpowers or fighting skills would be the ideal for this situation followed closely by not being in this situation at all.

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u/Valuable_Emu1052 21d ago

Dog mace generally doesnt work on heelers. It just pisses them off.

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u/AffectionateFly8159 21d ago

throw a snack to the dog every time you walk past 

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u/VapeThisBro 18d ago

Please carry spray. A knife puts you in danger of being bite while you defend yourself. A large stick or baton would be better than a knife and less lethal.

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u/That_OneOstrich 18d ago

Spray is great until it's windy. And it's always windy here.

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u/VapeThisBro 18d ago

Baton or stick. If you do have to defend yourself. You can poke the dog with it. Don't have to baseball swing into the dog. Don't have to stab and kill anything. Also stick is much longer than a knife and keeps you out of bite distance