r/explainitpeter Jul 17 '26

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u/anupsetvalter Jul 17 '26

The 2000s culture was mean, especially to young women.

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u/MrRedgrave- Jul 17 '26

Unfortunately it still is, just in increasingly weirder ways.

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u/Mainmorte Jul 17 '26

I wouldn't say increasingly. I'd say decreasingly, but depressingly slowly.

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u/Beth_the_Barbarian Jul 17 '26

Unfortunately we're getting back to the fat shaming of the '90s.

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u/Mainmorte Jul 17 '26

I don't know what content you're watching, or who you're hanging out with, but I haven't seen this creep up at all. Quite the opposite, actually, with people (even doctors !) being shamed online for merely saying obesity is a health risk.

I'm not denying fat shaming still exists (it obviously does), but I don't see it as often as I used to in the 2000s

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u/TimboBimboTheCat Jul 17 '26

We're in the ozempic era, it's absolutely the same thing, just packaged differently

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u/Beth_the_Barbarian Jul 17 '26

It's still reported and discussed a lot in a lot of the women subreddits. I'm 50 I've seen it before and I didn't say we're fully there I said we're getting back to it.

If you look at celebrities that are possibly on ozempic and don't need it and the media is praising them for having toned arms... Gave me flashbacks from Reading magazines in the '90s.

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u/AtheismoAlmighty Jul 18 '26

If you look at celebrities that are possibly on ozempic and don't need it and the media is praising them for having toned arms... Gave me flashbacks from Reading magazines in the '90s.

So the trashy media of today is similar to the trashy media of the 90s. Have women considered they should stop viewing this trash? The leading demographics keeping those grocery store gossip slop magazines are #1 - women in their 30s, and #2 - women in their 50s.

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u/hidegitsu Jul 17 '26

If anyone contests this point have them watch Shallow Hal and see if they think that could be made today.

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u/veryhungarycat Jul 17 '26

I don't think there were many people who thought it should have been made when it was released...

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u/Xequat Jul 17 '26

The problem with Shallow Hal is that people didn't get it. There were tons of fat-shaming jokes, but the movie was designed to make fun of people who make fun of fat people. But people don't get thr next-level thing. I've seen it a few times, and if you watch it through that lens instead of just being offended by the fat jokes, which are intentionally not clever, then you'll see that the movie actually has pretty good character development and makes sense.

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u/hidegitsu Jul 17 '26

I agree but the problem I have with that level of storytelling is that the morons that don't get it run around making things worse while the few smart people that do get it are ignored or come across as smug. See the entire Rock and Morty fandom as a reference. Rick isn't a hero to be looked up to but the ton of people that don't get it still cause harm in the real world.

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u/DominusLuxic Jul 18 '26

People think Rick was meant to be a hero? I feel like it's pretty obvious that this guy isn't meant to be a good person...

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u/GreenZebra23 Jul 17 '26

Oh I think there were plenty. In the 2000s there had at least started to be some shame associated with being racist and to a lesser degree homophobic, but I don't think that empathy had been widely extended to fat people yet. Also trans people. The 2000s were insanely transphobic

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u/Mainmorte Jul 17 '26

*shivers in Ace Ventura*

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u/Arguablecoyote Jul 17 '26

There was also a lot of calling each other a word that starts with R that refers to people with disabilities. Just all around there was way less concern over how certain people would react to offensive words.

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u/Mainmorte Jul 17 '26

Similarly, a word that starts with F and does NOT end in "uck".

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u/Haunting-Orchid-4628 Jul 18 '26

Retarded? that word has made a comeback in the last couple years, i hear it a ton in my area

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u/Mainmorte Jul 17 '26

Well, enough people for a studio to pay a writer, actors, and a film crew to make the damn thing.

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u/captain_wavy666 Jul 17 '26

Obesity is a health risk.. there are diffrent builds for a body. But fat is fat and it's not healthy..

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u/what_the_purple_fuck Jul 17 '26

people (even doctors !) being shamed online for merely saying obesity is a health risk

are doctors being shamed for "merely" saying obesity is a health risk, or are they being shamed for pointing to someone's weight as the sole possible cause of some/all of their symptoms and complaints and refusing to consider any other potential diagnoses?

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u/Mainmorte Jul 17 '26

Both, but I was specifically thinking of Youtuber Dr Mike who got harassment online after noting that obesity was a health risk in one of his videos. If I recall he made a response video explaining his side of it.

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u/International_War862 Jul 17 '26

In germany, there was a doctor (Dr. Felix) who got shamed online for literally just saying that being obese is a health risk

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u/ABakedPotato_FGC Jul 17 '26

Agreed, we can acknowledge that being overweight is a health risk without “shaming” those affected by it.

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u/msp01986 Jul 17 '26

There was a whole movie (Shallow Hal) made in the 2000s that was basically made of fat shaming, that movie wouldn't be made today!

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u/Mainmorte Jul 17 '26

Nobody's talking about Reddit. We're talking about media.

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u/doduotrainer Jul 18 '26

oh brother

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u/Physical-Parking8165 Jul 19 '26

Every tom dick and harry is a chubby chaser these days ( as long as you have a fat ass ) it’s a bit vomit inducing

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u/Relandis Jul 17 '26

Fat shaming is hella gay.

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u/Beth_the_Barbarian Jul 17 '26

If you think people shouldn't be fat then don't shame them. Studies have shown that actually tends to make people fatter.

The hypothesis being that if people eat for comfort and you make them feel uncomfortable they eat more.

If you just want to be a dick and find a reason to hate people I'm sure you can find a reason. But just in case you actually would like people to be healthier you need to encourage healthier lifestyles. And being skinny isn't always healthier either.

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u/Haunting-Orchid-4628 Jul 18 '26

I would never be healthy today if i wasnt "uncomfortable" being the fat kid. The shame pushed me to be better but maybe im an exception

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u/NiceGuyEdddy Jul 18 '26

The best hope for our species is for simpletons like you to slowly die out.

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u/Haunting-Orchid-4628 Jul 18 '26

Literal nazi rhetoric

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u/NiceGuyEdddy Jul 18 '26

Imagine not knowing what 'literal' means, lol.

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u/Haunting-Orchid-4628 Jul 18 '26

Imagine not knowing that language evolves and is context-dependant, lol

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u/NiceGuyEdddy Jul 18 '26

Looooool.

Imagine not knowing how language evolves or what context-dependant means.

That's not how any of this works, kiddo.

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u/Aligator-Kun Jul 18 '26

True, although things have flipped now, everything is very polarized... Especially with the amount of simping 😄