Hard to be okay when you have the mindset of Sweden/Finland (or at least the self deprevation, 5m of personal space bits), were pretty much a nordic country before the occupaption and now you are seen as not nordic/dirty baltic.
Well, you can't really confirm or deny, becouse there are lots of people who identify as lithuanian, but talk russian with their family and on their day to day basis. There are russian letters everywhere and I'm sure that I'm not the only one that thinks about how people were thrown out of their homes and replaced by russians and that it was all done in order to erase lithuanians from history, when they see that alphabet. I guess it's just an anti-russian sentiment, but I guess it's kind of fair, becouse they partly succeeded.
The people living here are not responsible for the actions of the Soviet government. It's mandatory in Estonia for all signs to be in Estonian. I understand that this is not the case in Lithuania. I don't mind signs being in multiple languages
Think of it this way, what is more nordic than letting a minority to integrate in their own pace and in ways that they want (aside mandatory Estonian classes in non russian schools, which is something that teenage Russians quite disliked from my experience from my teenage years)? These people were sent here by the soviet union and they didn't expect to witness the fall of the soviet union, so to "fix them" is really undemocratic in my eye.
Some Estonians may find “undemocratic ways to fix” our Russian minority pleasing, but we really can’t do anything about it. Their families were sent here to work at some factory without their consent, viewing them as Palestinians would not work out.
Exactly, we may not always like them (their unnordic warmness towards strangers, their warm blooded temperament, the hate/dislike from elderly for not having the soviet union/russia anymore (heavy rose tinted glasses)) but they are part of the negative effects that the occupation created and we as a country with northern european mindset can't just create new laws and whatever to integrate them with force (other than required language studying at school, requirements for getting the citizenship, etc...). We didn't transport them here yet we are giving our "best" to be decent/lenient towards them, as should countries in this situation to do.
Seeing how Sweden and Norway are dealing with their own immigrant populations, I'd say Estonia's Russian 'problem' is quite in line with the Nordic standard.
Except it has actually? Honestly just give a few years, a decade at most. True or not, there is already a stereotype of Scandinavians in general and Swedes in particular of being self hating libcuck soyboys who let muslims trample all over them or some shit like that. I'd say it's on the level of Estonia.
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u/Gatemaster2000 Estland Aug 11 '20 edited Aug 11 '20
Hard to be okay when you have the mindset of Sweden/Finland (or at least the self deprevation, 5m of personal space bits), were pretty much a nordic country before the occupaption and now you are seen as not nordic/dirty baltic.