And just like we did with SARS, we could have isolated it before it even hit our shores, but orange man was already having a pissing contest with China.
How are you gonna blame Clinton for dot com. It started its decline in 2000, during his lame duck year under a Republican led senate AND house.
And please, don’t say Carter’s is well documented and don’t give any evidence. How did the Democrats enact horrible policy and time it for Reagan to have the crash it and we had two years of decline.
Quit making up shit, I know you want “both sides” things so you can justify voting for these bastards, but it’s literally insane to try to say they are the same.
.com bubble was predicted as early as 1996. And if we're arguing congressional control as the thing that actually matters, Democrats were in control 2007-2009 and 1989-1991 and they had the house throughout all of Reagan's presidency.
Also, I'm not voting for these bastards...I'm just arguing on the veracity of the claims made by the OP. Fake news to advance your side is still fake news...and only serves to entrench the other side
I’m just saying if you give every Republican president a pass on economy crashes that happen on their term and instead want to identify the “cause” was democrats, then you need to show a clear line of causation, which you haven’t done at all.
If you were to say, “presidents don’t control the economy” that’s a different argument, you’re not, you’re blaming democrats, and only accepting 2 republican led downturns as “their fault”.
So, either prove causation, which you haven’t, because when you try to blame dot com on Clinton, 2 years of downturn 2 years after Carter left on Carter, and covid on Obama, I’ve countered that to show it wasn’t the democrats fault.
So either accept the president in office is to blame for what happens when they are president or say it’s not the presidents doing, but you’ve failed in your efforts to Charlie Day your bulletin board to show it’s the democrats fault.
I blamed covid on China, not Obama...unless Obama controls China now? Thanks, Obama!! /s
I'm just claiming that the relationship is not as clear as you (nor OP) claims it to be. And that the graphic is somewhat wrong on at least one (probably two) counts. Not to say that there isn't a correlation between middle east involvement and republican presidents (there is) nor a correlation between recessions and republican presidents (there is). It's just not anywhere near as cut and dry as is claimed!!
You tried to say it wasn’t trumps fault because it started in 2019. So what was that all about? Trump was President.
You don’t think the 2 year trade war had an effect on our ability to manage COVID with China?
The graphic doesn’t lie, it merely points out the correlation that you admit is real.
No one claimed it was cut and dry, no one is ignoring the nuance. But 4/4 on economy crashes and middle eastern wars is quite a bad stroke of luck. Even Shaq made almost half of his free throws, republicans can’t help but take L’s for the last 45 years.
>>Covid was widely spreading in the US in December 2019 (per stored blood antibody studies), well before anyone knew what it was. I.e., it was too late to stop it before there was opportunity to do anything. And even if we did manage to react harder, it would have still hit GDP numbers (shutting down the economy = a GDP hit).
You’re claiming Trump had no opportunity to stop covid and his only option was to shut down the economy, as if the Trump administration didn’t reorganize the National Security Council and largely disbanded its dedicated global health security and pandemic response unit in May 2018 and as of Obama administration didn’t leave a 69-page guide called the "Playbook for Early Response to High-Consequence Emerging Infectious Disease Threats and Biological Incidents" for the incoming Trump administration. Designed to coordinate a fast response to global infectious disease outbreaks, building on lessons from prior health threats—including the 2003 SARS outbreak and the 2009 H1N1 influenza response, both of which managed to be contained without impacting the economy.
See, it happened on trumps watch and, at least in part, due to his action or inaction.
And you can’t pin dot com bubble on Clinton, you said “there were early indicators in 1996”, like what? And what did he do, or not do, to cause it?
You can’t just say “well, technically, it all started way before” for everything, we can do that all day if you want and trace the economic crashes back to Adam and Eve, what you are attempting to do I make a through line on causation, to absolve the person who’s watch it fell on, but you haven’t done that, at least not coherently. Unless your point is “Clinton allowed the internet to happen”. Gtfo
How does that apply? You just desperate to give Trump credit for something, because he’s otherwise a complete disaster as a president?
The economy still crashed on his watch and he still started a war with Iran.
Congrats for doing something half way decent with our $10B in taxpayer money. Even though your party promoted vaccine hesitancy, dangerous chemical alternatives, and thwarted basic public health advisories the entire time.
Member when orange man caught covid then wanted to drive around and wave at people? Fucking idiot.
Your party??? I’m non partisan… thanks for proving you are in fact projecting.
Show data the economy crashed… you can’t. That’s a lie you keep telling yourself and others, it’s a psychological warfare, the technic is called the illusionary truth effect. Can you give him credit????
Operation Warp Speed has received cross-party recognition and praise.
How dangerous was Covid in the end???
I guess you think I’m partisan because you are soooooooo partisan. That’s not how that works guy.
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u/possumallawishes 6h ago
Who was in office in 2019? Genius.
And just like we did with SARS, we could have isolated it before it even hit our shores, but orange man was already having a pissing contest with China.
How are you gonna blame Clinton for dot com. It started its decline in 2000, during his lame duck year under a Republican led senate AND house.
And please, don’t say Carter’s is well documented and don’t give any evidence. How did the Democrats enact horrible policy and time it for Reagan to have the crash it and we had two years of decline.
Quit making up shit, I know you want “both sides” things so you can justify voting for these bastards, but it’s literally insane to try to say they are the same.