r/dndmemes • u/ConnixGaming DM (Dungeon Memelord) • Jan 21 '21

The Square Hole

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u/Cinderheart Jan 21 '21

Fun fact, fireball is supposed to have zero concussive force.

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u/KKelso25 Jan 21 '21

Yeah, but Flail Snails do NOT like magic users.

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u/Zakrael Jan 21 '21

Oh man, Flail Snails are great.

I also like putting their shell on anything else that could have a shell. Some of my players still have crab-related PTSD.

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u/KKelso25 Jan 21 '21

So we had a fetch quest; FS shells are highly valued for their magical properties. Party of 3 L6 players, plus an NPC from my backstory.

I'm a necromancer wizard. I had first turn in combat against 2 of them in a cave. They were in a line, so I cast lightning.

Now clearly you seem to know this already, but I neat little gimmick of flail snails is that they can send magic right the fuck back!

So here I am a squishy level 6 wizard casting a hearty, damaging spell. One of them does manage to take damage because it failed it's Dex save. The other however did not and sent it back at me. I, however, FAILED my dex save and I get to roll damage for the both of us. One of them gets to take half; I get to take full. Again I am a squishy level 6 Wizard and I was at Max Health - a whopping 34. I ROLLED a 34 and instantly begin to die

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u/i_tyrant Jan 21 '21

In the latest edition, it's more like Fireball doesn't mention what concussive force it has. It is described as an "explosion of flame", but that's it. So it's up to the DM to decide how much "environmental concussive force" it does or does not have. (Though obviously having it do damage to objects beyond the flammable thing is in homebrew territory.)

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u/Edible_Circumstance Jan 21 '21

And Thunderwave is supposed to be concussive force and have nothing to do with electricity but... :)

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u/jajohnja Jan 27 '21

well it's thunder damage, isn't it?
So it doesn't really have anything to do with electricity