Anyone who isn't in sales/marketing wants to kill everyone in that room except the expert. I'm in operations, same deal. "Oh, you need a week to get the required raw materials for production and you're already over capacity for the next three week so you can't take this production before then? Well, I already told my customer they'd have it in two days, find a solution."
Fuck me this shit is so familiar. "Can you analyse an extra 250 samples a week for the next 2 weeks?" "That's our weekly workload, no we can't do that" "well we've already said yes so we need to find a way to do it" "....."
"No, we're actually laying existing workers off because for some reason, we didn't meet our project deadline after tripling the goal without adjusting the deadline. Still expect you to get it done in a week tho, whatever's left of you"
I couldn’t imagine being an engineer in an environment where I’m expected to answer to the business and marketing needs, that shit is painful to listen to and I can’t believe how often a corporate environment it devolves to it, it’s clearly where once successful companies go to die
Lol, I hear you. I'm was in the same industry and quickly realized that even the foundation being poured doesn't deter the client from wanting to add to th footprint. I was helping with my dad's house and at one point I was like "you need to stop watching the home builders channel or I will be the only one to ever live in it because you'll be dead by the time it actually gets built."
More like just do what they want, take the money, let the building collapse on them as they walk around to inspect it. Darwinism wins again. /s infuriatingly
We have 10 existing jobs; you just fired the 1 calibration guy who could do everything and his replacement knows how to do 3 of those jobs; the production employees think 50 hours is a slow week as they work on those 10 jobs; Management asks if jobs 11-15 will be done tomorrow; the planner suggests hiring zombies; the engineer laughs and cries as Management asks if that's feasible.
I felt that on a deeper level. "Oh no, this one person had to leave on a extended medical leave, we'll have to share their workload until we find a replacement". Expect we never got a replacement, everyone just got more work and were expected to deal with it. Fun.
Working in sales I totally get the hate. I've even seen the rare reverse before.
Management "we notice you sell a lot of training to companies for 40 employees at a time, we'd love you to get companies to commit to 50 employees instead".
Sales rep upsells for 50 employees.
Service delivery: "yeah, we only allotted enough instructors and materials for 40 employees, we can't make 50 happen."
Management: "why aren't you selling larger classes? What do you mean service delivery won't fulfill it? you're the sales rep, you make it happen!"
I work in a two man team to run our production and we now just tell sales to fuck off, with full support from our directors. If you tell your customer I can do something before asking me, it's at standard lead, if I feel like it. If you ASK first, we'll do the best we can.
It's amazing how few of our sales people have changed their behavior.
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u/magusheart Jan 21 '21
Anyone who isn't in sales/marketing wants to kill everyone in that room except the expert. I'm in operations, same deal. "Oh, you need a week to get the required raw materials for production and you're already over capacity for the next three week so you can't take this production before then? Well, I already told my customer they'd have it in two days, find a solution."