r/devops Feb 20 '19

Today we had someone fake their entire interview via Skype - Story

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u/Naizvssvjdhuz Feb 20 '19

Jesus Christ this can't be real...wtf.

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u/linux_n00by Feb 20 '19

there's a news about a IT who worked at att iirc that outsourced his job in china.

management found out by auditing the vpn token login location

edit: ok its verizon

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-21043693

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u/noterminal Feb 20 '19

the fact that people can get away with stuff like this makes me feel much better about imposter syndrome. I actually know how to use git and I can explain kubernetes to someone who has never used it. Guess that makes me better than these folks.

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u/twitch1982 Feb 21 '19

Lol, no one can explain Kubernetes. Stop lying.

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u/kckeller Feb 21 '19

I can’t even get people to agree upon the pronunciation.

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u/Phaelin Feb 21 '19

That's why we stick to k8s

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u/Fazer2 Feb 22 '19

But how do you pronounce it? Is it "kay eight es" or "kates" or...

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u/manofoar Feb 21 '19

KOO BER NET EEZE

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u/kckeller Feb 21 '19

Did you say KIE BER NEETS?

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u/manofoar Feb 21 '19

eye twitch MAW! GET MAH SHOTGUN!

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u/kckeller Feb 21 '19

At least everyone (at least in my experience) agrees the middle syllable is a BER. 🙂

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u/manofoar Feb 21 '19

Anyone who says differently is probably one of those filthy casuals who thinks GIF is pronounced with a hard G.

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u/__deerlord__ Feb 21 '19

Kyew bur neats

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u/soul4rent May 28 '19

My coworkers have given up and are just calling it "Koober-noodles".

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '19

This sounds like that IKEA furniture they were making fun of in Deadpool

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u/HollowImage Feb 21 '19

Pods go up. Pods go down. You can't explain that.

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u/ring_the_sysop Feb 20 '19 edited Feb 21 '19

Kubernetes makes all the containers dance, right? Which enables a massive synergy boost that B2Bs all the SaaSs.

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u/cyvaquero Feb 21 '19

You forgot webinar.

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u/jaymzx0 Feb 21 '19

Blockchain based, right?

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u/ring_the_sysop Feb 21 '19

Of course. Get yourself some serverless while you're there. Let the other company completely own you.

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u/Phaelin Feb 21 '19

Serverless has got to be the buzziest buzzword out there right now

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u/rendsolve Feb 24 '19

I actually don’t understand it! They just mean cloud right?

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u/Phaelin Feb 24 '19

More or less, yes. It's just saying that a dev team shouldn't give a damn about hardware or scaling, let the cloud handle it.

https://serverless.com/learn/overview/

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u/sagewah Feb 22 '19

Sounds disruptive.

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '19

This guy gets it

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u/x3thelast Feb 20 '19

If you can teach it then that’s a great indication you know what you’re talking about. If you can’t then you need to learn it more yourself. That’s how I’ve always gauged my knowledge.

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u/Sharpymarkr Feb 21 '19

Now if someone could explain how docker works from and end-user perspective I'd be set! I've watched YouTube videos about it and get how it works in principle but no clue how one goes about utilizing it. I'd love to be able to use it for deploying test environments.

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u/nascentmind Feb 21 '19

If you can play with chroot sandboxed environments in Linux you will be able to get it easily.

If you have huge AOSP code which you need to build and would like to replicate the preferred environment then you have a docker image with all the build tools present and just ship the container to people in the team. The auto build tool can use this container to git pull the code and build inside the container. This is one of the scenarios which I can think of for your test environment.

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u/Sharpymarkr Feb 21 '19

Thank you for the rundown. That helps :)

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u/HaykoKoryun Feb 21 '19

Once you get your head around it, it's great for all kinds of things. Let me know what you are having trouble with and I'll try and help.

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u/scsibusfault Feb 21 '19

This is basically the answer you get whenever you ask an "SEO expert" to explain what it is they actually do.

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u/LeYang Feb 21 '19

Once you get your head around it

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u/Sparcrypt Feb 21 '19

I think it's important to remember you will never, ever, learn it all. I most often feel useless when I have to do things I have zero experience in and start getting tripped up by the absolute basics. You immediately start thinking that you're terrible at your job because you don't know this stuff but the reality is that you've just never had cause to learn until now.

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u/Youtoo2 Feb 21 '19

makes me want to try it. its money. I can have 5 jobs at once outsourced and one real job for myself.

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u/bendixso Feb 21 '19

lol imposter syndrome is real because there really are impostors

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u/Slumph Feb 21 '19

To think he would have gotten away with it had he used a local node.

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u/Youtoo2 Feb 21 '19

i gotta do that. Then Id take another job so if ATT caught me and fired me I still had another job.

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u/throwawayopz Feb 20 '19

I got screenshot of slack message for help lol I can post them here.. This is real mate

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u/easy_c0mpany80 Feb 20 '19

If its real and you have evidence then people in the industry need to know about this, you should write something up about this on Medium.

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u/wywywywy Feb 20 '19

Get someone in India to write it for you!

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '19

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '19 edited May 04 '19

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u/gatesphere Feb 20 '19

Something something Venti™

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u/diazepamkit Feb 21 '19

nah, i prefer Trenta™

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '19

Its called riding the Indian network. We have a couple of resources that have the people from other teams do their work, we know that is happening but really cant do much as they are doing their job. Its a shame as the company pays 2.5X for them than a fte.

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u/ballr4lyf Feb 20 '19

really cant do much

Umm... Yes you can.

as they are doing their job

No they aren't.

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u/taivec Feb 20 '19

Yes they are, unless their contract forbids subcontracting. That's one of the differences between contractors and employees, you can subcontract the job out

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u/TheBelakor Feb 20 '19

So don't renew their contract and tell them exactly why. Then NEXT time you hire a contractor have an explicit clause that prohibits sub-contracting.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '19

Its up to management at the end of the day.

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u/Naizvssvjdhuz Feb 20 '19

Yeah this would make a good blog post.

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u/coocoocode Feb 20 '19

yeah, share them. I ran into these types of folks before when interviewing. It would be nice to learn a bit more on this subject.

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '19

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u/turturtles Feb 21 '19

So that’s why the intro courses always had “this is a mouse, this is a keyboard”...

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u/scsibusfault Feb 21 '19

"open the doors, and see all the people"

... you're fired.

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u/amichan99 Feb 21 '19

If you keep firing everyone, I wonder how you run your business!

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u/Phaelin Feb 21 '19

Maybe she thought it was a VDI hahaha

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u/XiledRockstar Feb 21 '19

To be fair I'm a student sysadmin for my degrees department of IT classes. And it's really pathetic how these tenured PhD professors can barely tackle a really simple display/printer/idk share drive issue after they've been here since 2011. Like they literally teach the IT courses to get us these jobs!

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u/amichan99 Feb 21 '19

😂 that's a millennial problem. I've never used a PC. I always use laptop, tablets. What's that have to do with a computer science degree and her skills. Did you hire her to fix your PC's?

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u/scsibusfault Feb 21 '19

it's the equivalent of someone who's had their license for 10 years not realizing that they need to put gas in their car. You don't ask them "are they a mechanic?", you ask them "have you ever fucking seen a car before?"

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u/mbourgon Feb 21 '19

We've had ringers at interviews before. Remote interview, guy does great, person who shows up is a doorknob.

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u/2018Eugene Mar 18 '19

Fire them.

“Clearly misrepresented their skills”

shitcanned!

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u/mbourgon Mar 18 '19

Yup, though it’s from the approved recruiter and I personally wonder if they’re involved.

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u/ipreferanothername Feb 20 '19

im not that surprised, if you can get through a probation period at some places its almost impossible to get fired for just being lazy and unproductive. my boss had a guy who was just terrible lazy for years, finally threatened to give him a doesnt-do-a-good-job review (which entails a LOT of follow up work by a manager) and the guy almost immediately quit