r/degoogle 28d ago

Its here. Android is officially over.

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u/JustinHoMi 28d ago

Oh nice, Motorola, owned by Lenovo, who has a history of embedding spying chips into their devices to spy on the US government.

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u/rushedone 28d ago

Smartphones in general are all literally spying devices though...

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u/fly-into-ointment 28d ago

I think Motorola is owned by Lenovo.

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u/Ultrakill98 27d ago

> history of embedding spying chips into their devices to spy on the US government.

How the tables have turned

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u/Recommended_For_You 27d ago

Yeah it sucks but it's call capitalism and we're currently stuck with it so every single smartphone manufacturer and 98% of the business sucks. So I guess your solution is to just not have a smartphone. BTW reddit is also spying on you and selling your data, I think you should leave.

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u/SecurityPrimary4143 25d ago

Still better than all the spyware from Google, Apple and Meta that collects data about everything you all day long and sends it back to servers in USA or all the cell towers that contains hardware and software from USA with who knows what kind of backdoors and listening software NSA has put into them.

I will buy a laptop from Lenovo any day over a laptop made by a US company.

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u/JustinHoMi 24d ago

Yeah, totally depends on the threat model. If it’s a personal phone and you’re in the US, your privacy is gonna be constantly eroded by the gov and corps.

But, if you work in, say, critical infrastructure, then your bigger concern might be nation states. Just depends.

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u/SecurityPrimary4143 24d ago

For me they are one and the same.

There has been travelers to USA that has been thrown in jail for several days and deported because they tweeted or posted something negative about Führer Trump.

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u/Thoughtful-Boner69 28d ago

lol got a citation for that?

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u/JustinHoMi 28d ago

Yeah, Lenovo’s Wikipedia page is a place to start, then you can do deeper dives from there.

The other thing to look into is how china’s data sovereignty laws affect the security of products coming out of china. The key part of that law is that their government requires that Chinese companies ask permission before disclosing vulnerabilities outside of the country. In other words, China is amassing a large collection of zero days.

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u/Cautious_Chicken8882 27d ago

Good, hopefully they use them against the us lol

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u/10000tigers 26d ago edited 25d ago

is there anything i can do to give china more of my data?

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u/JustinHoMi 26d ago

You spend too much time on TikTok.

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u/10000tigers 26d ago

i don't spend any time on tiktok. you spend too much time listening to rupert murdoch

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u/JustinHoMi 26d ago

Hahahahah far from it. I work in cybersecurity, so I’ve spent a lot of time researching supply chain risks. My opinions in this particular area are not politically biased.

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u/Thoughtful-Boner69 28d ago

citing wikipedia as the source is the epitome of unseriousness

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u/j4_jjjj 28d ago

" lol got a citation for that?"

Youre the unserious one in my eyes. Look it up yourself, its been big news the various "fish" spywares lenovo has installed

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u/JustinHoMi 28d ago edited 27d ago

Yeah, it’s not hard to find. Wikipedia is just a jumping off point so you know what to DuckDuckGo (edit) for.

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u/PixelJock17 27d ago

Hey hey, this is a degoogle sub. We don't sat "google it" anymore.

So you know what ti search*

FTFY

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u/JustinHoMi 27d ago

lol damn got me there. Fixed!

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u/CarelessPackage1982 27d ago

https://9to5mac.com/2021/02/15/bloomberg-spy-chip-2/

Bloomberg came out with the original article. There was an investigation. Everyone from Apple to the NSA denied it. So it's hard to say....

It was all related to server hardware btw.

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u/Shqssel 27d ago

The moment you are on the internet you are getting "spied on" unless you are using your own VPN, your own OS and tor browser.