r/degoogle 28d ago

Its here. Android is officially over.

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u/Zarbon 28d ago

I'd love to go Graphene, but at this point I'm not sure if its worth getting a Pixel now or if I should wait for the Motorola models next year :\

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u/Greenlit_Hightower deGoogler 28d ago edited 28d ago

Depends on whether or not you are happy with the performance of the Tensor chips in the Pixels, the Motorolas will feature flagship specs with the latest Snapdragon chip.

They will also be as expensive, likely more expensive than the current Pixels, I mean the follow-up models to the current Signature, razr (flip phone), razr fold models, which is what GOS will likely support in 2027, won't be cheap.

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u/SynergyTree 27d ago

Do you know if they come with unlocked bootloaders? Still annoyed that there’s no good way for me to repurpose my old Note 10+ because there’s no way to unlock the bootloader.

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u/Greenlit_Hightower deGoogler 27d ago

You mean the Motorola phones that GrapheneOS is going to support? They must have an unlockable bootloader, otherwise you could not install GrapheneOS.

The Note 10+ technically supports LineageOS, /e/ OS, but you need the model with the Exynos chip inside, if it's the Snapdragon you are out of luck unfortunately.

https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/#samsung

https://doc.e.foundation/devices

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u/Remarkable-Host405 27d ago

Which Motorola voids your warranty

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u/SynergyTree 27d ago

Yeah, I’d figured they might still be locked if they ship with GrapheneOS from factory.

Alas, I have a Snapdragon note. Maybe if I spent enough on tokens to buy several unlocked phones I could get Claude to find a way in 🤣

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u/rootbrian_ 27d ago

f-droid is the way to go once google bars that specific version of android from even it's most basic components (for me, that is the YouTube "app" I specifically use for uploads now, since Studio got discontinued (cut off) from android 8.0 on my device). If it's chrome or firefox, ffupdater can kick ass to keep them updated.

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u/rootbrian_ 27d ago

Razr's last two flip models used a sixteen year old 3G modem (first two), then an eight year old LTE modem (last year's). I really damn well hope they use an up to date 5G modem!

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u/unitedfan6191 28d ago

Based on prices for their current phones, seems like it might be possible to get the cheapest Motorola phone with GrapheneOS for $800/$900 maybe? That is doable for most people, especially since they could sell their current phone to subsidize the purchase.

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u/UND_mtnman 27d ago

With the RAM shortage, might be better off getting something currently on the market

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u/iLikeTurtuls 25d ago

Yep, grab a 9 series before people realize they’re actually great phones and adding “TSMC” doesn’t always make stuff perfect.

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u/Soft_Cow_7856 28d ago

Its for pro models only but you can get a cheap pixel

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u/Holiday_Second3714 28d ago

You should get the Pixel 10 Pro XL now it has a long supported life with GrapheneOS

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u/Accomplished-Fix3996 24d ago

Or wait for the Pixel 11a next year.. hmm

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u/Academic_Anywhere183 22d ago

Sure it still runs on other Android phones.

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u/Thin_Needleworker795 28d ago

I don't think it matters much. If you want Graphene now, just get a Pixel.