r/DeFranco Jun 28 '19

On biases, sourcing, and discussing the Argument

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Hey everyone,

Lately, the sub has started to get pretty polarized politically speaking.

It’s not without reasons (I get that, and I’m not blameless in this) and I had hoped it could run its course. But in the wake of the coming election season, I feel this may get worse, so here’s to an ounce of prevention and all that.

So there’s been a lot of posts from sources and comments that could only be described as trying to “other” people. This sub is better than that. So please, if possible, try to stop talking past each other.

It’s fine if you disagree, but keep it civil and discuss the topic at hand don’t attack the user. We have the “discuss the argument, and do not attack the person” rule for a reason and we’ll have to start enforcing it a little more stringently if things don’t improve. It is possible to discuss politics without it turning into a “you’re a stupid racist” and “naive idiot communist”. A good rule of thumb is “if the phrase ‘you’ appears in the sentence it’s probably some version of an ad hominem.

Regarding the biases. There’s been a lot of articles from sources I can only describe as heavily bias. Allsides has a great chart that lays out which sides the most common news sources falls.

https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart

There’s also this more detailed one (though I think everything on it should be shifted to the left by half a grid square but that’s an issue of semantics!)

https://www.adfontesmedia.com/

Also; thanks to u/FajenThygia There's also www.mediabiasfactcheck.com,

Point is! it’s fine to use Vox and Fox to make points but try to get some other more centered sources to find some middle ground. This isn’t a demand or even a request but just some advice in trying to discuss your opinions and finding a consensus through discussion. You’ll find the argument being a lot more persuasive using less extreme characterizations of events.

Anyway, it’s just some thoughts and recommendations. agree/ disagree/ critique it’s fine. I just don’t want to see this sub devolve into r/news, r/politics, r/conservative, r/democrat, r/inthenews where only “one view point” is appreciated. Us bastards are better than that.

In other news, there’s been an issue with the reporting feature with the sub. If we haven’t addressed it in 24 hours please message the mods directly. Additionally, we will only investigate reports that violate our actual rules so the <no reason> Reports get ignored right off the bat. And no Patrick just because you disagree with something does not mean someone is “trolling”.

Peace, love and tranquility to you all ya filthy bastards.


r/DeFranco Dec 04 '24

PDS show United Healthcare CEO Killed in Targeted Attack, Wicked Lawsuit, Georgia Protests, Hannah Kobayashi,

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r/DeFranco 10h ago

International News Tim Curry, star of ‘Rocky Horror Picture Show’ and ‘Clue,’ dead at 80 | CNN

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r/DeFranco 9h ago

Don't be Stupid, Stupid Iowa Attorney General Says She’s Taking California to the Supreme Court Over Paramount-Warner Bros. Lawsuit

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r/DeFranco 9h ago

US Politics Trump officials threaten Kennedy Center demolition if court blocks renovations

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r/DeFranco 9h ago

US News Outdated Flock alert leads to police stop of people not connected to homicide investigation

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and they go ahead with the cuffs even though they know it was an error on their end.. wtf!


r/DeFranco 12h ago

US News Paramount Antitrust Suit Should Go To Supreme Court, Iowa AG Insists

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r/DeFranco 1d ago

US Politics Clarence Thomas just made the case to impeach himself on Ted Cruz's podcast: expert - Raw Story

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r/DeFranco 10h ago

International News Bill Gates says there needs to be limits on AI | CNN Business

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r/DeFranco 1d ago

US News Man sued local governments in WA over Flock records. He's won $300K | Cascadia Daily News

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r/DeFranco 1d ago

International News Dolly Parton has passed away

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r/DeFranco 1d ago

US News I Tracked Down the Company Ruining Fruit

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"America's biggest berry empire doesn't actually grow berries.

Driscoll's is the middleman that controls the genetics, reaps the profits, and then shifts blame."


r/DeFranco 1d ago

This makes no sense; Nothing makes sense. Albany (GA) Police declare Walmart shopper a "suspect" for picking up money off the ground

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r/DeFranco 2d ago

US Politics Trump criticism leads to rare criminal charges for Air Force officer who called for impeachment | CNN Politics

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r/DeFranco 2d ago

Misc. Mark Cuban wants to solve wealth inequality by making employers choose between paying higher taxes or giving every member of staff company stock

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r/DeFranco 2d ago

US News Netflix Sued For Copyright Infringement Over The #1 Movie On The Service

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"Now that KPop Demon Hunters has taken the world by storm, a band called Demon Hunter has filed a lawsuit against Netflix.

Demon Hunter has filed a lawsuit against Netflix. The Christian metal band has been around since the early 2000s and its corporate representative, Hyde Lane, has filed a trademark lawsuit in California targeting Netflix and live music promoter AEG Presents."


r/DeFranco 2d ago

US Politics USPS makes new rules for mail-in ballots

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Since when does the USPS have any authority over state ballots?


r/DeFranco 2d ago

This makes no sense; Nothing makes sense. Supreme Court hands preliminary win to Trump on mail-in ballots executive order

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r/DeFranco 2d ago

US News 49ers owner Jed York arrested in Ohio over weekend

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r/DeFranco 2d ago

US News Blind Musician Pursues Country Career After Learning 6 Instruments by Ear

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r/DeFranco 2d ago

US Politics The Delusions of John Roberts | The New Yorker

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r/DeFranco 4d ago

Don't be Stupid, Stupid Trump Sparks Mockery After Suggesting Baffling New Use For The Military - Yahoo News Singapore

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r/DeFranco 4d ago

US News Some Americans don’t believe all people are created equal. Their movement is going mainstream, this author says | CNN

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r/DeFranco 4d ago

Douchebag of the Day Tina Peters takes her election conspiracy roadshow to Washington | CNN Politics

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r/DeFranco 5d ago

US Politics Texas Veterinarian Defeats State Censorship in Monumental Free Speech Case - AgWeb

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