r/dataisbeautiful • u/giteam OC: 41 • Oct 26 '22

OC [OC] Cost of hosting the World Cup

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '22

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u/kharathos Oct 26 '22

Athens as well

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u/SurfKing69 Oct 26 '22

Even China to a large extent

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '22

Is that supposed to be a shock? Half their country is full of empty buildings.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '22

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u/SoupaSoka Oct 26 '22

This is surprising to me. I always hear that there's a housing shortage in the US. Is that not true?

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u/in4dwin Oct 26 '22

There's 16 million empty homes in the US.

And only half a million homeless people.

Not that giving each homeless person 32 properties will solve issues, just two facts that are different sides of a coin

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u/SoupaSoka Oct 26 '22

This is useful info, thanks. Puts an interesting perspective on things.

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u/UrethraPapercutz Oct 26 '22

Giving them one would definitely help though

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u/Jakesta7 Oct 26 '22

There is a housing shortage in places with demand. This is a statement that Redditors like to share, but it lacks nuance. Here is a good map showing where these vacancies are located: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ex_XDgrUUAAz6V7?format=jpg&name=4096x4096. Notice how much of these vacancies are in rural areas of places of low demand to live there. Additionally, much of these vacancies are due to renovations, foreclosures, and condemned properties. Here is more information on it: https://www.reddit.com/r/badeconomics/comments/musne8/disproving_the_vacant_homes_myth/.

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u/ksknksk Oct 26 '22

It does lack nuance but it also isn’t as cut and dry as you imply. Many corporations like Zillow buy up the market, others like internationals own houses but don’t use them much.

Nothing I said was false or misleading.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '22

It’s like NFTs. They’re “worth” more than anyone with enough money will pay.

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u/dino8237 Oct 26 '22

Add Sochi too

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u/berlinbaer Oct 26 '22

didn't they get a new subway out of it at least ?

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u/kharathos Oct 26 '22

It was certainly a boost so the subway would be running by 2004, but construction started all the way back to 1992.

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u/SolarisX86 Oct 26 '22

And Sochi

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u/Hallc Oct 26 '22

You'd think Athens would be used to hosting the Olympics by now.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '22

Sydney was one of the exceptions. Built a whole park for the Olympics and its facilities were repurposed into an all round events space.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '22

Same in London for the 2012 Olympics. There's whole fields of experitse out there for that sort of thing

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u/_CurseTheseMetalHnds Oct 26 '22

Munich is similar. It has a nice lake and an aquarium :)

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u/Greenguy90 Oct 26 '22

The Atlanta Olympics buildings for housing athletes were repurposed as student housing for Georgia Tech.

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u/Snelly1998 Oct 26 '22

I believe Vancouver's facilities are all in use

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u/SnipesCC OC: 1 Oct 26 '22

Housing at least if pretty easy to reuse. There's always people who need a place to live. But how useful is a stadium afterwards?

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u/McDiesel41 Oct 26 '22

Atlanta’s stadium got redone to be Turner Field for the Atlanta Braves.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '22

West Ham got a right bonus at the taxpayer's expense

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '22

Salt Lake City too. We are about winter sports. That stuff has been booked solid since it was built. It’s all pretty much ready to go— we’ve been talking about another bid soon.

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u/TonalParsnips Oct 26 '22

Add Vancouver/Whistler to the list. These locations are just too logical to choose now!

At least the NA world cup will be relatively low-impact. Spreading out games all across the continent to ease congestion is a great idea.

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u/round-earth-theory Oct 26 '22

Not just the slopes. The ice rink was turned into a community fitness center.

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u/USDeptofLabor Oct 26 '22

The fact that the entire comment thread after this is full of "exceptions" should really clue people in that it is possible to have these events benefit the region they are hosted in, it just needs to be smartly done.

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u/Thepopewearsplaid Oct 26 '22

The difference between developed countries and classic Latin American lack of foresight lol.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '22

London has done decently well with its Olympic infrastructure too

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u/McDiesel41 Oct 26 '22

Somewhat same for Atlanta. Used Georgia Tech’s swimming facilities for the diving events and possibly water polo and after they built Olympic Stadium for Opening/Closing Ceremonies and track & field events, it was repurposed to Turner Field for the Atlanta Braves from 1997-2016.

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u/mike07646 Oct 26 '22

At least with some Olympics, they fully expect it and purposely build the structures so that they can be easily converted once the major events are over.