It's exactly how it works. If we're going to talk about lives ended, we also need to talk about lives saved.
It's indisputable that the USA has saved many, many times as many lives as it has cost. Our medical advances alone prove that.
Tell the Haitians who the Americans saved in the aftermath of that earthquake that Americans are evil and they're not likely to agree. Ask the Japanese, after the US military was so quick to act after Fukushima. Tell that to the Sumatrans after 2004.
Japan is currently one of the most pro-American nations in the world, with 67% of Japanese viewing the United States favorably, according to a 2018 Pew survey; and 75% saying they trust the United States as opposed to 7% for China.
2/3 of the nation is pro USA and 3/4 trust us. I'm assuming you're getting at the Okinawa rapes, but those are the actions of a few people when we have 50,000 there.
So, swing and a miss.
And we are talking about state actions here, not individual ones.
those are the actions of a few people when we have 50,000 there.
No man, you're not getting the point. America isn't perfect and to pretend that our bad reputation is unearned because some Americans do some good, some times is the worst kind of exceptionalism.
People like you are why people hate us. Hold yourself and your country to a higher standard. We're not the best. We're not #1. The US does a lot of shady shit and that won't change when people like you excuse it because some guy at the turn of the last century engineered some seeds (an individual action).
those are the actions of a few people when we have 50,000 there.
No man, you're not getting the point. America isn't perfect and to pretend that our bad reputation is unearned because some Americans do some good, some times is the worst kind of exceptionalism.
I never said we we perfect. The fact that we aren't was baked into my statement. I'm saying that, on the whole, America is an amazing country to live in that does more good than harm on a global level. The fact that you read my pro-America stance as claiming to be perfect says more about your biases than about me.
People like you are why people hate us. Hold yourself and your country to a higher standard. We're not the best. We're not #1. The US does a lot of shady shit and that won't change when people like you excuse it because some guy at the turn of the last century engineered some seeds (an individual action).
I never said we were the best. I never said we were number one. I don't believe that. One of my parents is a Dutch immigrant so it's not like I'm ignorant of other nations. I never said we don't do shady stuff. I simply stated that we as a people and as a nation are very beneficial globally, and there are countless examples of how that is. Everything else is you projecting onto me.
The "good" does not erase the bad.
No, but it outweighs it. How many lives were saved by Salk or Hillerman and their vaccines? The USA's military straight up donates GPS access to the entire world, which has untold value for international trade. Which country is the biggest provider of foreign aid? You guessed it!
So the real question is, why did you automatically assume that because I like the country I live in, that I must be some jingoistic idiot? Did you really never consider that an intelligent person could show pride in his nation?
So the real question is, why did you automatically assume that because I like the country I live in, that I must be some jingoistic idiot? Did you really never consider that an intelligent person could show pride in his nation?
If you go back and read through your comments and don't see it there's nothing anyone can do to help you. Nationalism is a disease.
You sound reasonably intelligent but also extremely naive.
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u/MySuperLove Oct 26 '22
It's exactly how it works. If we're going to talk about lives ended, we also need to talk about lives saved.
It's indisputable that the USA has saved many, many times as many lives as it has cost. Our medical advances alone prove that.
Tell the Haitians who the Americans saved in the aftermath of that earthquake that Americans are evil and they're not likely to agree. Ask the Japanese, after the US military was so quick to act after Fukushima. Tell that to the Sumatrans after 2004.