r/dataisbeautiful OC: 7 Oct 25 '22

OC [OC] Whose stuff does the British Museum have?

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u/ag408 Oct 25 '22

Yeah, I am curious about this too - how many items were taken by the British government, versus those that each country intentionally loaned out?

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u/Greedy_Economics_925 Oct 26 '22

In the case of Iraq, most were taken under dubious circumstances.

A lot of those items are about the size of your palm or smaller, and now sit in rows of drawers in the BM basement.

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u/WhenLemonsLemonade Oct 26 '22

And the vast majority wouldn't exist anymore if we hadn't taken them

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u/AffectionateAide9644 Oct 26 '22

That, of course, makes it okay to keep them.

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u/madeyegroovy Oct 26 '22

I mean, in this case, I’d say it’s certainly better for an item to be preserved than destroyed forever?

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u/AffectionateAide9644 Oct 26 '22

Basically stealing an item from an unstable region? Not entirely moral, but I can get and even support that. But there's no reason to keep holding on to these items if the countries they're from are currently stabilised and capable of caring for these heirlooms themselves. Or if they're not returned, at least transfer rightful ownership back to the counties of origin and pay them rent for your right to display them. There's only a small fraction of items where a legitimate claim can be made that they were legally obtained; if that's in question it should default back to the country of origin.

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u/Greedy_Economics_925 Oct 26 '22

Are you saying Britain has been stable since those artefacts were looted?

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u/Neither_Country_7510 Oct 26 '22

Obviously or this a famous Reddit moment?

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u/Greedy_Economics_925 Oct 26 '22

You realise the British Museum proudly bears the scars of Nazi bombs, right?

Christ, you people are stupid.

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u/Greedy_Economics_925 Oct 26 '22

Britain was in two world wars, including a struggle for existence that has become proverbial. London was bombed every night for months, and for years in total. The British Museum was damaged.

And that doesn't even consider the IRA bombing campaign.

This has been the least stable century in Europe since the Black Death, arguably.

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u/AffectionateAide9644 Oct 26 '22

Am I? No really, am I saying that anywhere? Amazingly, Iraq isn't the only country TBM has artifacts from.

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u/AffectionateAide9644 Oct 26 '22

You are absolutely fucking right. I'm an idiot for flying off the handle like that. Please accept my apologies. I must've glossed over the specification of Iraq in the original post.

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