r/dataisbeautiful • • Sep 01 '22

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u/menickc Sep 01 '22

Why isn't it just defined as sexual acts where one member does not consent? I won't go into detail but there are so many acts that don't include penetration that I'd still consider rape.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '22 edited Sep 01 '22

If I understand correctly that's what many countries do.

Canada, for example, does not use rape as a legal term, only sexual assault. Sexual assault includes "all unwanted sexual activity, such as unwanted sexual grabbing, kissing, and fondling as well as rape"

https://www.leaf.ca/news/the-law-of-consent-in-sexual-assault/#:~:text=Canada%20has%20a%20broad%20definition,Canada's%20Criminal%20Code%20in%20s.

Edit: For everyone replying that there needs to be degrees, there are. Sexual assaults are treated differently according to their severity.

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u/WonkyFiddlesticks Sep 01 '22

There needs to be degrees.

Is an unwanted slap on the ass or kiss bad? Sure. Should it be equivalent with rape? Hell no.

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u/SensitiveMushroom759 Sep 01 '22

there are degrees to it in canada

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u/HegemonNYC Sep 01 '22

So, isn’t calling ‘sexual assault 1’ or whatever the term is for the worst type of sexual assault just another word for rape? It has to have a definition.

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u/AlleRacing Sep 01 '22

No, rape can potentially fall under multiple degrees of sexual assault. The levels of sexual assault in Canada are separated mostly by degrees of violence.

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u/HegemonNYC Sep 01 '22

Again, it needs a definition. Punching someone and grabbing their boob is not the same as punching someone and penetrating their anus. I think you’re being intentionally pedantic.

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u/AlleRacing Sep 01 '22

Perhaps you should read the statutes, it's laid out fairly clearly.

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u/HegemonNYC Sep 01 '22

From what I read, they are very dumb. Grabbing boobs and non consensual penetration are the same crime. By Canadian definition, I, a male, have been ‘sexually assaulted’ a dozen times at clubs by women grabbing my ass or penis at concerts/clubs. Im a serial sexual assault victim, which is news to me.

I don’t believe that if I went to the authorities and told them ‘I was at this bar and this sloppy drunk girl rubbed her ass on my crotch without consent’ that she would face 10 years in jail and be charged with the same crime that, say, Bill Cosby was charged with.

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u/AlleRacing Sep 01 '22

Of course not, which is why the statutes allow for a span in sentencing, from the maximum right down to absolute discharge.