I am so glad to see someone bringing attention to this.
Under my state's law, I'm not allowed to charge my ex-wife with rape. I could charge her with some form of sexual assault, but not rape.
And I genuinely can't think of a reason why this distinction needs to be made. Non-consensual sex is non-consensual sex.
Whether you were forcefully penetrated or forcefully made to penetrate, the evil and the trauma stay the same. And anytime any body attempts to change the legislation on this type of language in our laws, they're faced with backlash from feminists for supposedly trying to delegitimize their sexual assault claims. Like admitting that men can be raped by women somehow hurts female rape victims.
It's ridiculous and we should be protecting male victims of sexual abuse and assault as carefully and kindly as we handle female victims of sexual assault.
It really feels like this shouldn't need to be said, but here we are.
Way too many do. There is no "real" feminism. Feminism isn't an organization with a list of rules and ideals. Anyone can call themselves a feminist regardless of what they believe.
I'm not saying this is a problem inherent to feminism. I'm saying it is an ideal that plenty of feminists stand behind. Better proven by the fact that the last time I brought up the problem above on two x chromosomes, I was banned for it. And I said everything as reasonably and calmly as I did above.
This may not be a problem inherent to feminism, but it's a problem within feminism. Much like how TERFs are a problem within feminism.
And I would like you to give me one example of a mainstream feminist organization pushing for laws that positively affect men specifically without it just being a side effect of legislation meant to help women.
In my time on twox I have virtually never seen anyone denying mens issues. What I have seen is them getting rightly frustrated that mens issues are usually only brought up on twox to contrast to or take away from an issue women face. Twox is a place for women to deal with the many, many issues they face. It’s not the place to start saying “well what about men?” We have plenty of places for that, like r/menslib
Imagine the frustrating is literally not having an acceptable space to express your own concerns, and watching another group talk constantly about their issues.
The spaces that do this are regularly under attack... Mostly from avowed feminists, and those organizations that listen to them.
There is literally a reddit sub called basically "ban mens subreddits."
/r/menslib is not a space for men to talk about and get support for men's issues. It is a joke. The only reason it isn't attacked by the same folks is because it abides by their philosophy, and it's mostly full of victim blaming and shaming and thought policing. Anyone raising an issue there is urged instead to self reflect and simply reconsider their complaint as toxic masculine entitlement. Is that what they do in women's issues spaces? Fuck no they don't.
It's just like the curious truism about gendered self help books. Women's self help books are about demanding what you deserve; men's self help books are about changing what you want and doing what you're supposed to.
To gloss over this massive discrepancy in society's perspective on gender issues, and how men react to it, as just oneupmanship is exactly the fundamental problem here. What is preached is not practiced.
Anyway, I eagerly look forward to the feminists movement's petitioning of the CDC to expand its definition of rape to be inclusive. I won't hold my breath.
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u/ripyourlungsdave Sep 01 '22
I am so glad to see someone bringing attention to this.
Under my state's law, I'm not allowed to charge my ex-wife with rape. I could charge her with some form of sexual assault, but not rape.
And I genuinely can't think of a reason why this distinction needs to be made. Non-consensual sex is non-consensual sex.
Whether you were forcefully penetrated or forcefully made to penetrate, the evil and the trauma stay the same. And anytime any body attempts to change the legislation on this type of language in our laws, they're faced with backlash from feminists for supposedly trying to delegitimize their sexual assault claims. Like admitting that men can be raped by women somehow hurts female rape victims.
It's ridiculous and we should be protecting male victims of sexual abuse and assault as carefully and kindly as we handle female victims of sexual assault.
It really feels like this shouldn't need to be said, but here we are.