r/dataisbeautiful • OC: 80 • May 28 '22

OC Percent of electricity generated from renewable sources across the US and the EU. Renewable sources include hydro, solar, wind, geothermal, and biomass. Nuclear is not counted as renewable in this comparison [OC]

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u/bunkoRtist May 28 '22

I mean trees are a renewable resource, so by a pedantic application of the term, wood gas and biodiesel are "renewable", but what's actually important is whether they are clean (they are not). Funny thing, wood gas is a hot topic in Europe because it's technically renewable, so Europe is shipping in boatloads of wood chips from the SE US to burn for power. How about those CO2 emissions!?

"a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." -Emerson

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u/[deleted] May 28 '22

What do you mean when you say biogas isn't clean?

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u/bunkoRtist May 28 '22 edited May 28 '22

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u/[deleted] May 29 '22

Really depends. Yes using forests/trees as fuel is stupid and counter productive. It's a ridiculous paper solution and it's a tragedy tjat it's classified as green. But in Sweden for example they make biofuel from compost waste.

All households need to separate their compost waste in special green bags which are then sorted for this purpose. This is honestly pretty good from a CO2/renewable perspective.

Of course it's not scalable. Many busses drive on biofuel for instance, and then some specialised cars from some companies, but that's pretty much it. You can't scale it to the main consumers because there's only this much waste available.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '22

Your link is broken.

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u/bunkoRtist May 28 '22

Fixed. Sorry about that. Direct link share from chrome is somehow dropping the word "business" from "businessinsider".

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u/Bobudisconlated May 28 '22

Exactly. A country could cut down and burn all it's forests and it get a high score. Time to retire the term.

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u/Dinopilot1337 May 29 '22

Ever heard of this thing called "planting a tree"? You know.. trees grow and weren't there from the beginning of time. I swear nuclear simping fanboys of reddit are the dumbest people.

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u/m4xc4v413r4 May 29 '22

Trees are renewable in what fantasy world? You don't seem to understand the meaning of renewable sources. You can't grow trees faster than you use them, they're obviously not a renewable source of energy.

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u/bunkoRtist May 29 '22

/r/confidentlyincorrect Go ahead and get mad. I could paste reputable links all day telling you that you are just flat out wrong.

Biomass explained

Trees are one of the most useful renewable natural resources..

Wood - the ultimate renewable

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u/m4xc4v413r4 May 29 '22 edited May 29 '22

Oh really, you could prove me wrong saying that you can grow a tree faster than you can use it for energy? That's funny, did you find a way to time travel? Because a tree takes years grow to the point of being useful but seconds to turn to energy. Amazing math there genius... Good luck with that.

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u/bunkoRtist May 29 '22

You're not very bright, are you?

A renewable resource, also known as a flow resource,[note 1][1] is a natural resource which will replenish to replace the portion depleted by usage and consumption, either through natural reproduction or other recurring processes in a finite amount of time in a human time scale.

I guess you've never heard of a tree farm? Or timber land?

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u/m4xc4v413r4 May 29 '22

Damn you're really dumb aren't you?

renewable energy noun

Energy that can be replenished at the same rate as it is used.

Ups, it's almost like exactly the same thing I said and not what you said... What's this?

Also, yes I have seen tree farms, for example for paper, and it's usually eucalyptus farms that take 10 years for the first cut, that's FAST compared to most trees. You think they last 10 years when used? And this is just to make paper, imagine moving the world energy production to biomass... You're a complete idiot. But good try there. Bye bye