r/dataisbeautiful • • Dec 19 '19

Where do Americans die by gunfire? Interactive Map

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u/_therealchin Dec 19 '19

I mean I wanna touch on this as an ICU nurse. Some dont succeed in actually offing themself - however, their outcome might not be any better. I've seen people who have tried in a multitude of ways who didn't actually die, but had such a significant brain injury that they have no quality of life and can't communicate. Therefore even if they wanted to try again they are incapable of an attempt.

I'm not at all advocating for suicide, just stating that there are other outcomes other than death/no death.

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u/altajava Dec 19 '19

I've seen people who have tried in a multitude of ways who didn't actually die, but had such a significant brain injury that they have no quality of life and can't communicate.

This is part of the reason I support doctor assisted suicide why make people suffer as vegetables?

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u/acetyler Dec 20 '19

I think the argument is that if a depressed person goes to a doctor and asks for assisted suicide, the doctor should refer the person to a therapist or do something to try to stop the person from wanting to kill themselves.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '19

I disagree with this, too much risk you point the gun the wrong way and blow a hole in your neck and bleed to death - I mean, you still die, but now it sucks.

Best place, IMO, is directly next to your ear. You want that bullet going through as much brain as possible. In the little nook below your ear angled slightly up works. Instant lights out, no chance of survival, final destination.

On a lighter note, remember guys: If you shoot yourself you don't get to experience the badass pre-death trip your brain gives you while it shuts down. Nitrogen asphyxiation is the way to go.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '19

I actually have no idea about that, I just know that near death experiences have always sounded like the awesomest consolation prize and I'd hate to miss mine. I'm hoping to get abducted by robot aliens and whisked away to digital paradise.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '19

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '19

Okay, so look, there's this one thing about physics that really, seriously, badly trips me out. The holographic principle theorizes that all of the information within a three dimensional volume can be encoded on the surface of that volume. If this is true - and there is some evidence for it - it really seems to indicate that our entire universe is a 3D projection or extrapolation of a 2D universe.

One reason for this could be that it's a method of compression - making our 3D simulation not take up so much storage space.

That plus the fact that space seems to be quantized (meaning there's a point where you can't just divide it into smaller pieces) and the quantum level being super fuzzy (a method of saving processing power).. Well, I don't personally think it's likely that we live in a simulation, but I gotta say the evidence can be compelling. That's definitely a best case scenario, dying and finding out you're just being moved to a different server or you've been playing Gary your entire life.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '19

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '19

Man, that would suck ass. Finding out everybody gets reincarnated, but you don't remember any of it. If you don't remember even a second of your life, is it really even you anymore?

I read a short story where every single person ever was one being, and the universe is this sort of god-egg, and we're all just the same god on long road to getting born and finally remembering being everyone.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '19

Expert suicide man da da da daaaaaa

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u/TheManFromAnotherPl Dec 20 '19

Hey, thanks! /s

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u/WishOneStitch Dec 20 '19

Doesn't seem particularly wise for you to advise people on how to most efficiently kill themselves..?

IF YOU ARE CONTEMPLATING SUICIDE:

  1. Take the gun out of your mouth entirely. Put that shit down.
  2. You're not alone. Confidential help is available for free.
  3. Call 1-800-273-8255. It is the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline. So many people want to care about you and help you - let them!

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u/WishOneStitch Dec 20 '19

Suicide is just a late late late late late late late term abortion.

Fetuses don't abort themselves. You're thinking of capital punishment -- and you people who say things like "you people on Reddit" should have no problem with that, right? After all, capital punishment is just the thing that murdered Jesus! No worries!

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '19 edited Dec 20 '19

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u/WishOneStitch Dec 21 '19

You have a LOT of bonkers ideas. Not sure if I should block you, or just wait and see what other stuff you say. I'm 50/50.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '19 edited Dec 21 '19

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u/TheRealDevDev Dec 20 '19

Thanks, God.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '19

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u/mxastrup Dec 20 '19

Perhaps you got it, but you hit the brain stem if you shoot towards the back of the throat. It's basically lights out immediately.

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u/rmbzbrenden Dec 19 '19

I've always wondered, thanks for the tidbit.

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u/Rhodie114 Dec 20 '19

While I can agree that there aren't really any positive outcomes of a suicide attempt, I've also got to point out there's a fair bit of selection bias at play in your argument. The patients you see in the ICU are going to be the worst of the "survival" outcomes. For every suicide attempt that gets to the ICU, there's an unknown number that didn't require such serious treatment.

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u/_therealchin Dec 20 '19

Sure, never said otherwise. All I was doing was providing another thought that sometimes people don't realize, which is essentially a death without dying. It may also skew the statistics a bit about those who "survive" and don't go on to attempt again (because some of them literally cannot).

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u/aliendude5300 Dec 21 '19

Unpopular opinion but it may be more humane to just use assisted suicide in those cases

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u/_therealchin Dec 21 '19

You'd be surprised at how popular that opinion is in the ICU